Hevad Kahn

[LonesomeFugitive]

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Last night, ESPN aired a couple hours toward the end of the Main Event, including where Khan knocked out Humberto. His celebration, including that shtick with the chair in the air, was so bad even Humberto had a look like he thought Khan was a d-bag. Seriously, do a fist pump, high-five your buddies, etc. but get a grip and act with a little class.

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must...see...youtube of this....

[wisehandpoker]

I've never had a problem with big reactions in the adrenal aftermath of a win. The thing with Rain was that it felt obvious he wasn't in the moment with a lot of these celebrations. His interviews and the accounts of his buddies make him out to be a decent guy; I just wish he wasn't so deliberate with celebrating for the sake of getting the cameras on him.

Oh, and I say this as an Humberto defender.

[inyourface]

he crosses the line when he celebrates OTHER people being knocked out. There is NO excuse for that sort of behaviour.

[n4rf]

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It's all for TV and it sure as hell makes it a LOT more entertaining to watch.

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Actually it would be much more entertaining to see some more poker hands rather than wasting time focusing in on some maladjusted douchebag.

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It's not like it becomes the "Hevad Kahn Show". So he acts like a douche for a few seconds afterwards and it's back to playing.

[DCJ311]

Humberto is 100x more annoying to me than Hevad. When Humberto brought out the laser pointer shark and started shining it on the table where the turn and river cards were going to be I was ready to flip out. If I were involved in that hand live I would have gone ballistic- people don't pay 10k to get disrespected like that.

Hevad's shtick is just ridiculous, he's a weird spastic dude who's basically harmless. Humberto strikes me more as the used car salesman scumbag type.

[DrewDevil]

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It's all for TV and it sure as hell makes it a LOT more entertaining to watch.

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Actually it would be much more entertaining to see some more poker hands rather than wasting time focusing in on some maladjusted douchebag.

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It's not like it becomes the "Hevad Kahn Show". So he acts like a douche for a few seconds afterwards and it's back to playing.

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I don't think you are watching the same show I am.

Spontaneous celebration is fine (cf. Ohio State guy), pre-planned celebration dances are annoying and douchebaggish and I wish someone would kick Khan in his fat gut.

[BarryLyndon]

It's hard to assign what a person "should" and "should not" do in a game where individualism speckled with degeneracy is one of its key advertising points. Obviously, interfering with fundamental tenants of the game is an empircal violation. Profanity is "bad" because players are expected to conduct themselves as "gentlemen," whatever that means. Mostly everything else is shaded in gray, which is how it should be, because poker is essentially gray.

Much of whether he like celebratory gestures or not is just a matter of what falls alongside social norms, and what does not. If an attractive woman got up and bounced up and down a few times when she won, we'd be putting links up and commenting on how cute she looked (unless she is ugly, of course). And, of course, when a good looking frat boy does a fist pump or high fives his buddies, that's OK, because those celebrations have been unanimously approved as crisp, attractive depictions of glory by the American public.

So when some gaunt faced Swede with a pony tail tells Rain to "act normal," it doesn't mean that Rain's actions are "wrong." It means they are "douchey" because his celebrations are vivid extensions beyond what the poker playing public is used to or comfortable with. However, should any of us really complain about social discomfort in poker?

I'm not trying to advocate what Kahn is doing. In fact, I prefer to keep quiet when I win a big pot live because, in my opinion, a quiet blow is less painful than a loud one. However, poker is a game that encompasses hundreds of different philosophies with regard to communication - that's where the individualism of the game comes in. Some players believe that a loud celebration isn't painful to others (unless someone is being directly insulted), but just good fun and part of an adrenaline soaked game. To this, I say "why not?" If we started filling the pokerrooms with judgmental colleagues who wish to filter out eccentric, brash degenerates, we'd be suffocating the spirit of the game.

Barry

[Zetack]

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I'm sure you guys would rather watch all the boring asians this year at the wsop with zero personality. It's nice to see people having fun playing a 10k tourney.

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Um...
Scotty Nguyen
Johny Chan
Men the Master
Tech "my-hat-only-fits-sideways-on-my-head" Logic
Evelyn Ng

and on and on...

Yeah, asians are boring...

[paoul]

Hevad is not classless. He is a clown, but there is one hand where his queens crack some guys aces and at first he does his celbrations speil, but then he goes over to the guy and kind of appologizes. He ask the other player if he "hates his play" and explains how he coudlnt put him on aces, hence he re raises all in with queens.

Hes a nice guy who act kind of crazy when he wins a big pot. there are certainly worse ppl. At least he doesnt berate other ppls play ala phil helmuth.

[DrewDevil]

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Hes a nice guy who act kind of crazy when he wins a big pot. there are certainly worse ppl. At least he doesnt berate other ppls play ala phil helmuth.

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At least Jeffrey Dahmer wasn't Hitler.