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Old 11-07-2007, 03:51 AM
carnivalhobo carnivalhobo is offline
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Default I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

My image is solid, i havent lost a showdown, and ive been picking up a lot of pots (w$wsf was at 58 wtf) playing 22/17/5
CO is decent 21/12/4.5 22 wtsd over 650 hands. Doesnt seem to get out of line and just sticks it in with the goods.
BTN on the other hand sucks. 41/12/2.6 over 126. Hasnt really done anything too bad yet, but doesnt really know whats up.

Is this an easy fold?


Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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Hero (BB): $223.10
UTG: $469.55
CO: $537.15
BTN: $165.80
SB: $198

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4</font>, CO calls $4, <font color="red">BTN raises to $6</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $25</font>, UTG folds, CO calls $21, BTN calls $19

Flop: ($80) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $55</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $140.80 and is All-In</font>
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:53 AM
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

im folding, looks like we are behind
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:53 AM
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

id make it a lil more preflop.

once CO cold calls the open and the 4bet id be pretty scared once he comes alive on this flop.

check fold looks pretty good.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:17 AM
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

standard fold imo
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:34 AM
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

When I saw the title I couldn't imagine a fold, but I can now.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:35 AM
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

If you can't fold here you should have bet the flop.

That being said you should fold now, but I'm likely betting the flop.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:36 AM
carnivalhobo carnivalhobo is offline
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

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If you can't fold here you should have bet the flop.

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if i bet the flop, co shoves and bb calls can i fold?
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:40 AM
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

You handily beat very little here imo. CO's lead 3-way should scare the crap out of you, and 40/10 donks are usually pretty passive in huge pots like this. You're usually crushed, and when you're not you're flipping against a combo. This is a bluff or something you crush around 10% of the time max imo.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:43 AM
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

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If you can't fold here you should have bet the flop.

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if i bet the flop, co shoves and bb calls can i fold?

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My point was that if you must call this you, bet/calling is better. I don't think you can call this though. Also, by betting you won't risk giving a freecard on an extremely drawy board, which you often will when you check the flop and have the best hand.

Pretty tough decision if it goes bet, push, call though. I'd probably call but I don't really like it. I have a hard time putting CO on JJ/TT.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:46 AM
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

lol you guys are giving waaay too much credit to two obvious donks
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