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Old 08-26-2007, 05:43 AM
major major is offline
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Default I reached a critical point....

i become to tight because of the well choosen pressure of my opponets. i always run 21/14/4 till 5/10. significant number of hands.
At 5/10 -esp. 10/20 i did well untill a downsing. Within this DS something changed in my mind. I am not really scared of loosing a BI at 10/20, omg i made sometimes horrible calls for a BI. But i dont "play" with my money anymore. No retarted gambling but making pressure...i lost it and i do not push my edge with pairs/2pairs anymore.
I lost my feeling how i stand in a hand(i guess one main reason are the very good opp. who pick up the right spots to attack me).

Let me show you 2 hands where i can not tell you if they were ok/weak/good.

vllian is a LAG, good one.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($4291.90)
CO ($4135)
Button ($1217)
Hero ($2138)
BB ($2000)
UTG ($2000)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $60</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($140) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $80</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $260</font>, MP calls $180.

Turn: ($660) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $800</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1818</font>, MP calls $1018.

River: ($4296) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $4296


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($6583.90)
CO ($4075)
Button ($1273)
Hero ($1940)
BB ($2005)
UTG ($2123)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $60</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($140) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks.

Turn: ($140) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $80</font>, Hero calls $80.

River: ($300) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $180</font>, MP calls $180.

Final Pot: $660

Hand 1 pre...meh, postflop?
Hand 2 pre..standard...flop plan c/r....turn lead or c/r
river...because i misplayed the turn I HAVE TO BET here right?

My BR is large enough to "learn" playing at 10/20 but this is not optimal.
How should i proceed? go back to 3/6 rebuilding confidence, working on my game, hire a coach?
or making the same at 5/10?
Sure this a way to make it...and someone will answer MAYBE, but i am more interested in opinions of players who were in a similiar situation.
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Old 08-26-2007, 05:47 AM
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Default Re: I reached a critical point....

Dont call preflop with suited hands like these IMO. You can occasinally but dont get in the habit of it.
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Old 08-26-2007, 06:00 AM
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Default Re: I reached a critical point....

this will probably get locked thses hands are both fine, I would bet the turn uin hand 2 but the way you played it is fine... hand 1 is normal
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Old 08-26-2007, 07:01 AM
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Default Re: I reached a critical point....

@free

You are talking about K9s or KQs too???
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Old 08-26-2007, 07:14 AM
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Default Re: I reached a critical point....

id fold 1 pf vs a good lag. dont really like 2, id probably lead turn. i think your river bet can get you in a lot of trouble too.
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Old 08-26-2007, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: I reached a critical point....

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id fold 1 pf vs a good lag. dont really like 2, id probably lead turn. i think your river bet can get you in a lot of trouble too.

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How so? Seems like calling a raise here is no sweat, you all but pump the fist when he raises.

edit: i do puke if he shoves. but i doubt that happens much.
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Old 08-26-2007, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: I reached a critical point....

Definite fist pump call with finger pointed towards sky in hand 2 if villian raises river as played.
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Old 08-26-2007, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: I reached a critical point....

Hi major,

Hand 1 is perfect--what more could you want? Pre-flop call is loose; I make it usually but it depends on how well you read/play the raiser, and how tight he is.

Hand 2 is one of several good lines available. I like checking again on the turn because otherwise you lose action from all worse hands, and most Villains will bet a wide range there. These both seem well-played to me.
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Old 08-26-2007, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: I reached a critical point....

In hand one I think pre is a fold for sure, don't like calling oop at all and really not w/ hands like this. Post flop is fine and if you're beat it's a cooler.

Hand two: I like a reraise pre with this hand (as I said, don't like calling oop) but I sometimes mix it up with a call and of course it depends on the player. As played...
Flop: standard
Turn: I would probably lead most of the times but if you think he's betting, c/r is better i think. He almost never has you beat but may very well be sitting on Ad or Kd.
River: As played i think you have to bet for value and probably call a raise (again player-depending).
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Old 08-26-2007, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: I reached a critical point....

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How so? Seems like calling a raise here is no sweat, you all but pump the fist when he raises.

edit: i do puke if he shoves. but i doubt that happens much.

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hm i would fold if raised since this looks like such an absurd spot for an unknown villain to bluff.
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