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AA Turn fold
BB:39/11/1.2
Button sth like 62/x/2.0 Absolute Poker Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $2/$4 6 players Converter Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button 3-bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, Button calls, BB calls. Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (12.5SB, 3 players) BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, Button calls, BB calls. Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (12.25BB, 3 players) BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, BB calls, Hero folds. River: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (17.25BB, 2 players) BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, BB calls. Results: Final pot: 19.25BB IS this an easy muck? Edit: I add a second one for discussion Absolute Poker Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $2/$4 5 players Converter Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls. Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.5SB, 2 players) BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls. Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3.25BB, 2 players) BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, Hero calls. River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7.25BB, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, BB calls. Results: Final pot: 11.25BB |
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Re: AA Turn fold
why are you capping the flop, your hand blows.
And you probably have odds to hit the A by the time you bet the turn and get raised. I just call the flop 3 bet and go from there. |
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Re: AA Turn fold
Flop is much closer to a fold than a cap
Against 2 idiots I am continuing by caling the flop 3-bet like Hip. But if the other guy wakes up on the turn I am gone. |
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Re: AA Turn fold
1: often fold flop depending. otherwise just call down and fold anywhere for multiple bets.
2: check turn. IN MY OPINION. |
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Re: AA Turn fold
hand 1: Like miles.
hand 2: check to me too. The only hands you will get value from may be a single T or a lower FD - they may fold. Otherwise u are spewing cause the pot is really small. Theoretical question: How much do u guys think the potsize should bet to make a defending bet here and risk being reraised? Real biig right? |
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Re: AA Turn fold
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Ok. I was unsure after the Showdown when fish 1 showed K9 and fish 2 split with K8. 2) Thanks I see now that a turn check is better here. |
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Re: AA Turn fold
I don't remember who said it (I think it might have been ILP) but you should probably never cap with 1-pair on the flop. Especially when it's multiway. Maybe there's an exception if the flop is K-7-2 rainbow, the 3-bettor overplays any top pair and the 3rd guy is a station.
Call the 3-bet, then check/call the turn unless there's multiple bets. The biggest problem with your 4-bet on the flop is that you probably don't really know why you're doing it. If it's purely for value then folding afterwards is pretty damn awful. When you put in 4-bets for value, you should be pretty confident that you're way ahead of their range and you obviously weren't in this case cause the turn changed very little (only completed 78) and still you bet/fold. So then it looks like the 4-bet is for info, and raising for info blows. On top of that you got the worst possible result by 4-betting. You juiced the pot up, then decided to fold to a turn-raise when you had the equity to call cause you had plenty of outs. |
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