Party 50NL: QQ standard or spew?.

boardertj · #1 10-08-2007, 10:49 AM

Villian here is 37/19/1.3 no other reads.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($61.06)
BB ($63.94)
UTG ($156.44)
MP ($48)
Hero ($48.68)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB calls $1.75, 1 fold.

Flop: ($4.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.5, SB raises to $9, Hero raises to $25.

Final Pot: $22.50

I see so many flop check raises from opponents looking to pick off cbets, plus this could easily be AJ or Axc as well. So I decided to put in the 3bet.
Given my stack size, any 3bet is basically commiting myself to the pot. Any thoughts?

yntm3 · #2 10-08-2007, 10:53 AM

If you see flop check raises from THIS opponent then I think it's fine but he looks pretty passive to me. Would he play a FD this way? I'm not sure. AJ sounds likely and a deuce holding does not seem likely that often.

I think I'd do the same on this board and call a shove since half my stack is in.

monkover · #3 10-08-2007, 11:08 AM

I´m stackign off here every time. no matter if villain is passive or not he often overvalues TP here or may play a fd like that.

bazooka87 · #4 10-08-2007, 11:24 AM

Yep I'm stacking off here, what deuce is he going to call a raise with out of the sb? That's the only thing you should be behind here, way ahead with an overpair, and slightly ahead of a flush draw

whyherro · #5 10-08-2007, 11:27 AM

I think the real question is how do we get the most value here, since there isn't a single sensible holding with more than 50% equity against you.

corsakh · #6 10-08-2007, 11:30 AM

I like calling and c/r the turn. People can't stop bluffing on paired boards.

Jailblazers · #7 10-08-2007, 12:12 PM

I like the 3bet. Chances are he will call anyway with any jack and it is likely he is playing TJ, QJ, or KJ (given preflop action), possibly 33+ (is this too wide?). Shove turn.

monkover · #8 10-08-2007, 12:19 PM

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I like calling and c/r the turn. People can't stop bluffing on paired boards.

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true but any A,K or club sucks

CianCrillz · #9 10-08-2007, 12:23 PM

I would have to push, unlikely any 2 would be in his range, he is probably over valuing the top pair, maybe KJ AJ. He probably would have reraised pre with AA or KK also.

boardertj · #10 10-08-2007, 09:15 PM

How is my 3bet sizing here? I know my stack size is limiting but hypothetically, if we were both 200bbs deep, should I be raising more? 30-35ish?