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Old 09-28-2007, 03:37 AM
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Default Re: $100NL: 2.5 buyins deepstacked with a kill yourself decision

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And I really wouldn't play JJ so fast this deep, FWIW.

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Which street would you play different?

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IDK it's late and I'm tired, time to go. But you are coolered here SO often on each street.

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Soo tired you don't even notice we have a straight on the turn? And the 4th nuts preflop?

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LOL at "4th nuts" deepstacked. LOL at non-nut one-card straight. 'night.
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Old 09-28-2007, 03:45 AM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: $100NL: 2.5 buyins deepstacked with a kill yourself decision

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LOL at "4th nuts" deepstacked. LOL at non-nut one-card straight. 'night.

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LOL at women who play poker. Yeah betting small or even checking the turn looks good for pot control looks awesome. I mean he has to have QJ here loads obviously. He never has a set looking to fill up (at almost any price a lot of the time), or a sucker straight, or a stubborn overpair of course. And LOL at thinking 'ZOMG we are deep and we only have JJ preflop, obviously don't 3bet because we don't want to go broke for this much money with just JJ.'
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Old 09-28-2007, 03:48 AM
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Default Re: $100NL: 2.5 buyins deepstacked with a kill yourself decision

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LOL at "4th nuts" deepstacked. LOL at non-nut one-card straight. 'night.

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Stuff like this is why you play like this



Your arguments are horribly inconsistent here. If he's coolered pf or on the flop then there is no possible way that he doesn't have the best hand on the turn.
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Old 09-28-2007, 03:51 AM
Roger Mainfield Roger Mainfield is offline
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Default Re: $100NL: 2.5 buyins deepstacked with a kill yourself decision

Anyway I call river. We have 115 ish left and pot is 375, so you only need to win a bit more than a quarter of the time, and I think you are good more than that.

I raise the same or a bit more, like 17-18 pre, and then less on the flop.
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Old 09-28-2007, 04:00 AM
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Default Re: $100NL: 2.5 buyins deepstacked with a kill yourself decision

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And I really wouldn't play JJ so fast this deep, FWIW.

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Which street would you play different?

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IDK it's late and I'm tired, time to go. But you are coolered here SO often on each street.

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Soo tired you don't even notice we have a straight on the turn? And the 4th nuts preflop?

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LOL at "4th nuts" deepstacked. LOL at non-nut one-card straight. 'night.

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just admit you didn't realize OP had a straight on the turn...
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Old 09-28-2007, 04:03 AM
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Default Re: $100NL: 2.5 buyins deepstacked with a kill yourself decision

this hand looks fine on every street as long as you called river. youre getting good odds and i think hes trying to shove you off a chop pretty often with a frustrated set/overpair..

only realistic hand that beats you is QJs, which i expect would shove on the turn. QQ is a possiblity, but very unlikely because of PF action. and if QQ is possible so are both AA and KK so this even more of a river call.
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Old 09-28-2007, 04:27 AM
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Default Re: $100NL: 2.5 buyins deepstacked with a kill yourself decision

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Is there any other option than calling given the pot size and the bet?
He's got nothing to lose by betting out but creates some FE.

He could have had a smaller set, two pair, overpair, OESD, ...

Insta-call.
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Old 09-28-2007, 06:10 AM
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Default Re: $100NL: 2.5 buyins deepstacked with a kill yourself decision

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only realistic hand that beats you is QJs, which i expect would shove on the turn. QQ is a possiblity, but very unlikely because of PF action. and if QQ is possible so are both AA and KK so this even more of a river call.

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This is really the only 2 hands i can put him on. I don't think he pushes river with the last 2.
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Old 09-28-2007, 07:03 AM
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Default Re: $100NL: 2.5 buyins deepstacked with a kill yourself decision

Prefer a raise to ~24 and a flat call to this raise.

You have to call river given these odds and the fact you can't completely remove sets, 2 pair, complete air or even 66 from his range if he's bad. No reads?

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Old 09-28-2007, 08:53 AM
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Default Re: $100NL: 2.5 buyins deepstacked with a kill yourself decision

I like more pf 20-22.

Anybody like a turn push ?
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