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Old 10-22-2007, 12:58 AM
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Default 200nl, 250BBs deep, river NF on paired board

My turn bet should have been bigger, wasn't paying enough attention. River comments? Villain is 35/8 over a small sample size.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $233.50
Hero (BTN): $809.90
SB: $122
BB: $498.35
UTG: $103.70
UTG+1: $77.40
MP1: $299.30
MP2: $200

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
5 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $14</font>, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($29) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $8</font>, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($45) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $16</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $32</font>, Hero calls $16

River: ($109) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $150</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $395</font>, Hero folds

Results: $409 Pot ($3 Rake)
BB mucked and WON $406 (+$202 NET)
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:04 AM
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Default Re: 200nl, 250BBs deep, river NF on paired board

I probly would have flat called the river. Playing that deep you have to be prepared for a shove. As played fold, although I really really want to look this up.
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:08 AM
Das Budrick Das Budrick is offline
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Default Re: 200nl, 250BBs deep, river NF on paired board

grunch

I don't like the raise/fold on river. If we are raising we should be prepared to call a smaller 3bet and probably fold to a shove, as played I would just call. I could easily be wrong though.
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:16 AM
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Default Re: 200nl, 250BBs deep, river NF on paired board

looks fine to me other than the turn bet

there's def. value in the raise but he's not 3-betting a T hi flush or dry queen here IMO
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:45 AM
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Default Re: 200nl, 250BBs deep, river NF on paired board

Seems to me that he's showing up with kings full a lot of the time here, aces doesn't really play like this, especially since you have the ace of spades, and he might even have quad queens.

He's playing this like such a sucker that it's not even funny. 8 dollars on the flop, min raise on the turn, etc? screams a big hand to me. Because he's playing it like this I definitely just call the river.
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:11 AM
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Default Re: 200nl, 250BBs deep, river NF on paired board

A min 3-bet raise is simply AA, KK, QQ most of the time. Just call the river. Nothing that you beat on the river calls you if you raise.
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:21 AM
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Default Re: 200nl, 250BBs deep, river NF on paired board

your always beat there, fold.

call river
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:43 AM
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Default Re: 200nl, 250BBs deep, river NF on paired board

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looks fine to me other than the turn bet

there's def. value in the raise but he's not 3-betting a T hi flush or dry queen here IMO

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Old 10-22-2007, 03:57 AM
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Default Re: 200nl, 250BBs deep, river NF on paired board

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A min 3-bet raise is simply AA, KK, QQ most of the time. Just call the river. Nothing that you beat on the river calls you if you raise.

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This definitely isn't true when the button is stealing.
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Old 10-22-2007, 04:02 AM
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Default Re: 200nl, 250BBs deep, river NF on paired board

What about the min raises on the flop and the turn though (counting 8 into 29 as a total suck bet min raise)
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