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Old 09-25-2007, 06:22 PM
cwar cwar is offline
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Default Awkward Spot with JJ

Villain sat down recently and has called two raises in eight hands and hasnt won a pot.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $99.75
BB: $85.50
Hero (UTG): $100.00
MP: $105.15
CO: $152.65
BTN: $93.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $3.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($8.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6.50</font>, BTN calls $6.50

Turn: ($21.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $15.00</font>, Hero calls $15.00

River: ($51.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $30.00</font>, Hero calls $30.00
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:29 PM
NicholasJ NicholasJ is offline
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Default Re: Awkward Spot with JJ

OOP sucks. This is a common and tough spot. His range for calling the flop? Sets, 98s, T9s, JTs, A9s. If you bet the turn he will call with most of these hands, but raise 2 pr and sets. I b/f the turn.
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: Awkward Spot with JJ

we lose to flopped sets. We beat OESD's, 98, A9,other random stuff. With the odds I'm getting on river, i say [censored] it, this is the top of my turn c/c range, I call.
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: Awkward Spot with JJ

kind of a wacky line, but not really bad on that board imo

cr river ai though, otherwise you're just burning money
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: Awkward Spot with JJ

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kind of a wacky line, but not really bad on that board imo

cr river ai though, otherwise you're just burning money

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I think its close but I think we are certainly behind his call range.
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: Awkward Spot with JJ

i agree...i actually like this line...def crai allin river tho
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: Awkward Spot with JJ

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kind of a wacky line, but not really bad on that board imo

cr river ai though, otherwise you're just burning money

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I think its close but I think we are certainly behind his call range.

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what's a push? $39 more to him... basically a min raise after you've showed weakness for 2 streets and top 2 got counterfeited
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:08 PM
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Default Re: Awkward Spot with JJ

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kind of a wacky line, but not really bad on that board imo

cr river ai though, otherwise you're just burning money

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I think its close but I think we are certainly behind his call range.

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what's a push? $39 more to him... basically a min raise after you've showed weakness for 2 streets and top 2 got counterfeited

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Well against 99, 88, 22, A9, T9, 98 we are 47% and we have to assume he is playing T9 very aggressively I dont think its clear cut especially without a read I would probably assume he is more passive than aggressive (called twice preflop).
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:08 PM
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Default Re: Awkward Spot with JJ

Lead turn, c/c riv, c/r is viable too if he has drooler potential. Or you can lead. You really can't play the river wrong as long as you don't c/f. It's an interesting board to play on the riv because he has a lot of marginal-strength pair hands in his range that will call but won't bet as well as a lot of whiffed draws that will bluff.

Check-raising the river actually won't get called that often, but I feel like you're never behind here. Lots of ppl will be downie enough to call a c/r with like 98 though.
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