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Old 08-16-2007, 05:12 PM
ReidDeCardes ReidDeCardes is offline
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No strong reads but UTG+1 seemed a bit loose. Afterwards I checked PT and got him at 42.8/7.14/.80 over 42 hands.

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.25/$0.5
8 players
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Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5.4SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3.7BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5.7BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: 7.7BB
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:18 PM
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it's perfecto
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:19 PM
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I think folding the flop agaisnt this passive guy wouldn't be so bad.
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:20 PM
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This is a very marginal situation, so it's close either way. Personally, I think peeling is a little thin with your hand. Despite the fact that I'd give a lot of value to your Overs - say between 4 and 5 outs - that still gives you at the very most about a 6 out hand and the pot is small.

FWIW, I think raising the flop is terrible.
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:24 PM
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I think folding the flop agaisnt this passive guy wouldn't be so bad.

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Mathmatically I think you may be right but I almost never fold a flop HU when I'm donked into and have &gt;3 outs which I think we have here. But that may be a leak brought on by my ego.
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:26 PM
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I think without better reads I'd just fold it on the flop.

edit: removed the part that didn't make any sense.
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:29 PM
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I think folding the flop agaisnt this passive guy wouldn't be so bad.

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I don't not agree, but I'm reading that as OP got the stats after the hand.

Looks good to me as played.
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:36 PM
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I think folding the flop agaisnt this passive guy wouldn't be so bad.

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This guy is not that passive. He is basically playing every other hand. Having a .8 AF is pretty stiff when playing half of your hands.
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:36 PM
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I would probably just call instead of raise the river.

I doubt he bets a J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or worse.
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:51 PM
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I would probably just call instead of raise the river.

I doubt he bets a J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or worse.

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hmmm. I don't think so, raising here is definitely profitable.

There are 2 hands that beat us, and many that he'll make a crying call with - sets, sometimes 2 pair, worse flushes - especially 2 card flushes he made on the turn, they never get folded here (edit by a guy with these stats, (edit and sometimes straights. And I'm not as concerned about A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] || K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] as I might be in other spots.

edit: If this guy had less insane stats, I'd be inclined to respect his ability to fold almost all worse hands, but I think it's safe to assume this guy sucks.
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