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Old 10-31-2006, 08:08 AM
imzadim imzadim is offline
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Default Bad fold on the river?

Hey there, this is the first hand I post, so here it goes!
I think I made many errors on this one.
Should I raise preflop here?
Should I fold the flop?
But the worst mistake might have been folding the river, although I'm not still sure (weak flush and full house possibility...)

Opinions?


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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $23.40
UTG+1: $5.60
MP1: $1.60
MP2: $7.75
CO: $16.60
Hero: $10.85
SB: $9.70
BB: $2.80

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, CO calls, Hero calls, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($0.65, 6 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $0.4</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises all-in $1.5</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($5.55, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $5.55)
<font color="#cc0000">CO bets $2</font>, Hero calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($9.55, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $5.55, Sidepot 1: $4)
<font color="#cc0000">CO bets $7.3</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $7.3 returned to CO.

Results:
Final pot: $9.55
<font color="#ffffff">MP1 showed 8s Ts</font>
<font color="#ffffff">CO showed Th Qs</font>
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Old 10-31-2006, 09:03 AM
mmctrab mmctrab is offline
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Default Re: Bad fold on the river?

I'm figuring CO for A6, and your flush to be good. The paired board makes me a little nervous, but all you're really afraid of is K6, or J6, and J6 I think he'd fold to the all in bet, or fold preflop. If he turns up with one of those, or a pair of clubs that beats your 10 high flush that's just crappy luck, but I don't see how I can fold here.
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Old 10-31-2006, 09:06 AM
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Default Re: Bad fold on the river?

NO folding here you ve made your hand and unless he was slowplaying KK or JJ your goot, i doubt villain ever has K6 or J6 here but shoot maybe at micro micro they call with everything so its moot, but you HAVE to call here
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Old 10-31-2006, 09:06 AM
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Default Re: Bad fold on the river?

I think you should:
preflop: raise
Flop: fold or raise
Turn: fold/call not sure
River: call
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Old 10-31-2006, 09:16 AM
mmctrab mmctrab is offline
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Default Re: Bad fold on the river?

Actually, forget A6. It's too early in the morning for me. Everything else I think makes sense.
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Old 10-31-2006, 09:28 AM
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Default Re: Bad fold on the river?

we want to try to get all our money in on the flop yeh? so raise that [censored] up?
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Old 10-31-2006, 09:31 AM
Panthro Panthro is offline
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Default Re: Bad fold on the river?

In a low level "loose" game where everyone calls PF (raised or unraised) with any two cards, I don't mind just limping on the button with small pairs and sooted connectors.

Other than that, I'd definately call the river bet. The villain doesn't HAVE to have a full house. He could have a straight, two pair, TPTK, etc; You chased your club and got it, so pay him off if he has you beat.
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Old 10-31-2006, 05:15 PM
imzadim imzadim is offline
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Default Re: Bad fold on the river?

Thanks for the comments, now I'm convinced that was a terrible fold!

I think my real fear on the river was that the huge raise could represent a higher flush, but I should've paid him off anyway since that it what I was chasing.
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Old 10-31-2006, 05:28 PM
Jigsaws Jigsaws is offline
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Default Re: Bad fold on the river?

Push the flop. $4 already in there, $10 behind for you, you have at least 9 outs, sometimes up to 14.

River's a very bad fold. Why were you calling flop and turn again?
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Old 10-31-2006, 05:46 PM
Shaddux Shaddux is offline
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Default Re: Bad fold on the river?

[ QUOTE ]
Thanks for the comments, now I'm convinced that was a terrible fold!

I think my real fear on the river was that the huge raise could represent a higher flush, but I should've paid him off anyway since that it what I was chasing.

[/ QUOTE ]
It wasn't a huge raise. It was a medium-sized value bet.
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