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Old 10-16-2007, 03:01 PM
Khabbi Khabbi is offline
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Default Re: Tough Spot, Dealer Forces Me to Call the Floor

Did you re-raise him after the floor ruled his action to be a raise?
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: Tough Spot, Dealer Forces Me to Call the Floor

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should we blame the dealer then for not seeing the person put in more then half the bet of a min raise? he should recognize that much no?

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At what point in the OP did you read that the dealer did not notice how much the player put in?
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:20 PM
youtalkfunny youtalkfunny is offline
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Default Re: Tough Spot, Dealer Forces Me to Call the Floor

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I sometimes think dealers try to hard to give the person what they want to do and ignore the rules a bit.

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As RR would say, any ruling that tells a player, "We all know you want to do A, but we're going to make you do B," is a sad thing.
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:59 PM
Rick Nebiolo Rick Nebiolo is offline
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Default Re: Tough Spot, Dealer Forces Me to Call the Floor

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Guy makes the mistake, dealer says thats not enough, he clearly embarrassed tries to pull back the bet.
I said to the dealer as he was pulling his bet back "that was a raise."
Guy to my right says "thats not how the Venetian works."
Dealer (with confidence) says "ok its just a call."
I ask for the floor and the floor states the half of the raise rule and forces him to put in the full raise.

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Note that this "half or more of the correct raise is a raise" is a floor guideline for correcting short raises when a mini raise is short of a full raise and the stacks are deep.

Most card clubs and casinos use this guideline but there are exceptions. For example, at Hawaiian Gardens Casino anything short of a full raise is a "fouled bet" - of course this is only enforced when a floor is called and he understands the house rule. Otherwise dealers and players will usually allow corrections to slightly short mini-raises.

~ Rick
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:27 PM
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So its settled. Did you win the hand?

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The third player pushed for $700 I called obviously and UTG1 folded.
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