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check/call 1 8.33%
bet/call 5 41.67%
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check/raise 1 8.33%
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  #2571  
Old 11-21-2007, 09:11 PM
Dr_Jeckyl_00 Dr_Jeckyl_00 is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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I think this hand will show I have no idea what I'm doing at times, either that or there's just several ways to play this hand.

The table in general (especially those left to act) limped a lot and called a lot of c-bets, I tend to be tighter with my preflop raises at these tables and limp a little more.

Preflop - very limpy table, thought it was probably to be a multiway pot and small chance anyone raises, most of the guys behind me seldom folded to a c-bet

Flop - It's just me and blinds so I try to take it down, given the tendency to call most c-bets I probably could of checked here, though ace flops seem to get more folds.

Turn.
I'm torn on building a pot with a strong draw, possible winning the pot uncontested, and checking behind and taking a free card and avoid a possible c/r.


River - I have no idea what this idiot is doing, evidently he's really a genius and saw into my soul that I have nothing, and is just teasing me with this weak lead.

I'm so tempted to pop this river.

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Button ($24.40)
SB ($21.45)
BB ($9.80)
UTG ($9.55)
UTG+1 ($10.30)
MP1 ($22.90)
Hero ($36.30)
MP3 ($26.20)
CO ($5.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.75</font>, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.75.

Turn: ($3) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.5</font>, SB calls $2.50, BB folds.

River: ($8) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $0.25</font>,

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grunch

I don't like your post flop line since you were not aggressive pf. Bet pf otherwise c/f post flop. Your analysis said they won't fold and you have nothing, so why bet? You need to value bet these type of players, not bluff them.

Flop bet is not good b/c you did not bet pf
Turn bet is good b/c of OESD
River - they called turn bet so I doubt they're folding river, mostly b/c they probably don't see the str8 possibility
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:42 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Dr. J,

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Flop bet is not good b/c you did not bet pf

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IMHO you will be betting a lot more often when you have impetus, but that doesn't mean you never bet (bluff) without it.


Bhokie,

I didn't notice the open-limp of JTs in MP preflop. I think you'll be fine if you never do anything like that. If you add to your read that no one ever folds on any street with any piece I might go along.
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Old 11-22-2007, 08:10 AM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

What do you do What do you do What do you you here?!?!

Villain is 18/12/2.7 reg.

GusiLebedi ($127.25)
Firetribe ($107.55)
Comrad ($102.55)
misiek171 ($301.60)
cigam ($102.05)

GusiLebedi posts (SB) $0.50
Firetribe posts (BB) $1

Dealt to Firetribe A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
fold, call,
cigam raises to $5
fold,
Firetribe raises, calls or folds?
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Old 11-22-2007, 08:11 AM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Im the BB
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Old 11-22-2007, 08:47 AM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Firetribe looks at his att to steal first
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Old 11-22-2007, 08:50 AM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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Firetribe looks at his att to steal first

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18% (i just made that up you know)
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Old 11-22-2007, 09:01 AM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

I think I fold, oop vs tight player. If he likes to raise light after limpers its diffrent... but I suck at cashgame so bad that Id like to hear what those people who can actually play would do ^^
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Karp I think folding and raising the AJs there is ok. Most regs/tags like to raise the limpers so their range will be quite wide here and can't stand a 3bet. When called you have to be very careful b/c AK/AQ/QQ will be in their calling range. Sometimes I fold, sometimes I raise. If he's only stealing 18% of the time I'd probably lean towards folding though.
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Old 11-22-2007, 01:42 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Somehow I managed to run 9ptbb/100 this session.
-Hand 1, CO is like 19/12 maybe 2p2 from sn, no history
-Hand 2, BB is 35/24 ish and most likely 3betting me like here. How bad is my 4bet size and then call?
-Hand 3, I can make this fold against TAGs. But there are like so many overpairs I bet and I hate folding overpairs obv.
-Hand 4, spew spew spew spew??
-Hand 5, UTG is tag ish maybe 19/16? We were involved in a lot of pots but he's wasn't getting out of line.
-Hand 6, LOL got valuetowned against a 38/12 ish


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($50.75)
MP ($49.25)
CO ($61.70)
Hero ($137.10)
SB ($105.40)
BB ($50.70)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $1.75, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8.25</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG folds, CO calls $6.50.

Flop: ($19) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $140.85 (All-In)</font>, CO calls $23.45 (All-In).

Turn: ($125.90) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: ($125.90) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $125.90




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Button ($27.20)
Hero ($75.95)
BB ($106.65)
UTG ($13.80)
MP ($12.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $5.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15</font>, BB calls $7.75.

Flop: ($28.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $93.65 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $62.95 (All-In).

Turn: ($154.40) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: ($154.40) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $154.40




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Hero ($60.60)
MP ($49.45)
CO ($52.90)
Button ($60.60)
SB ($52.80)
BB ($39.15)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($4.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $6</font>, Hero calls $3.50.

Turn: ($16.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $22</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $60.85 (All-In)</font>, CO calls $23.15 (All-In).

River: ($106.55) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $106.55




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CO ($49.05)
Hero ($51.50)
SB ($51.95)
BB ($50.75)
UTG ($93.45)
MP ($106.65)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($4.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $11.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $95.7 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $38.25 (All-In).

Turn: ($103.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: ($103.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $103.75




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CO ($65.95)
Hero ($125.75)
SB ($23)
BB ($14.55)
UTG ($44)
MP ($72.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $1.75, SB calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($5.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.5</font>, SB folds, UTG calls $4.50.

Turn: ($14.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $50</font>, UTG calls $12.75 (All-In).

River: ($90.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $90.25




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MP ($53)
Hero ($72.55)
Button ($50)
SB ($39.50)
BB ($31.75)
UTG ($48.20)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $4.25</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $1.75.

Flop: ($9.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $4.5</font>, Hero calls $4.50.

Turn: ($18.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $18</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $36</font>, SB calls $13 (All-In).

River: ($80.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $85.25
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Old 11-22-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Ok so in the 66 hand apparently I'm 51/49 vs all TT+ combos, sets, and all AK/AQ combos with a heart.
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