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Old 08-31-2007, 08:19 PM
Rotating Rabbit Rotating Rabbit is offline
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Default WTF 2 cold calls behind o rly?

2/4nl 5 handed. Hero opens utg with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 10[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG+1 (600, too loose, tricky/slowplay) calls, CO (270, clueless slowplaying loose passive fish), rest fold. Hero covers.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (pot 50)

Hero bets 40, both players call.

Turn: 10[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (pot 190, shortie has 215, UTG+1 has 545)

Is this a clear turn bet?
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Old 08-31-2007, 08:29 PM
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Default Re: WTF 2 cold calls behind o rly?

if they both like to slowplay, i'd never bet this turn. c/c is fine, if the price is right. plus you get to see what they both do, since the more aggressive player is first to act among them
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Old 08-31-2007, 08:29 PM
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Default Re: WTF 2 cold calls behind o rly?

I check. Crai if fish bets and c/c if UTG+1 bets
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Old 08-31-2007, 08:35 PM
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Default Re: WTF 2 cold calls behind o rly?

i don't think it's clear. if someone did frop frush you're about an 83/16 dog on the turn and, since you'd like to see a river getting raised wouldn't be great plus if the river blanks you might be able to squeeze some more value out of your turned best hand.

not saying you should check but having tricky raise you on the turn isn't fun and you can check/call a lot of bets profitably.
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:59 AM
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Default Re: WTF 2 cold calls behind o rly?

Thanks, in the event I did check because I was thinking of horror scenarios like if I bet, then what can player 2 call with thats worse, and if he raises i'm in a horrible spot. Weighing this up against value vs the fish to a turn bet I decided it was better to value the river. But afterwards I was procrastinating a lot about it.

In the event I got lucky, they both checked behind and I got a value bet on a blank river.
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Old 09-01-2007, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: WTF 2 cold calls behind o rly?

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if they both like to slowplay, i'd never bet this turn. c/c is fine, if the price is right.

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I agree. Seems wa/wb to me.
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Old 09-01-2007, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: WTF 2 cold calls behind o rly?

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if they both like to slowplay, i'd never bet this turn. c/c is fine, if the price is right.

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I agree. Seems wa/wb to me.

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There's only one hand that we're wb
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Old 09-01-2007, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: WTF 2 cold calls behind o rly?

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if they both like to slowplay, i'd never bet this turn. c/c is fine, if the price is right.

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I agree. Seems wa/wb to me.

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There's only one hand that we're wb

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I would estimate that the wa/wb concept is correctly used 10% of the time or less on these message boards.
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Old 09-01-2007, 03:17 PM
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I would estimate that the wa/wb concept is correctly used 10% of the time or less on these message boards.

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QFT, the amount of times I've heard people using that term on the river.


op, clear c/c or fold if it gets out of hand (next to act bets, other player raises)
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