100NL 3bet pot w/ JJ - Turn line?

[Mike MacIntosh]

Villain sat down two hands ago. I have played with him before (24/20/3.3 over 120 hands).

1. Assign villain a range for each street.

2. Given this range, what turn line would extract the most value out of this player?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($93.90)
Hero ($104)
BB ($159.25)
UTG ($125.50)
MP ($97)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $7.

Flop: ($21) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, MP calls $16.

Turn: ($53) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ???

[el_grande]

I'll give it a shot, but I'm still working on assigning ranges...

main pre-flop range: 66-QQ, AQ, AK
also possible: KK-AA, mid SC

flop range: 66, 88-QQ

I'd commit on the turn

turn: bet $35, call an allin

river: push

[K䲰䮥n]

I've gone thru many TAGs and there is no common factor for calling 3bets. Some call 80%, some 20%. Also, Hero's image is pretty important on assigning the raise-call range PF.

[HoldEmNewby]

His range is:
probably 88-AA , with QQ-99 making up the most of his range, all of which call a push, I say shove the turn he'll have a hard time folding to your push.

[Mike MacIntosh]

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His range is:
probably 88-AA , with QQ-99 making up the most of his range, all of which call a push, I say shove the turn he'll have a hard time folding to your push.

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Given your assessment, wouldn't a CRAI be better than a turn push?

[Mike MacIntosh]

[/b]Turn:[/b] ($53) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero checks, MP bets $33, Hero ???

Thoughts?

[PartysOver]

c/c turn, block river...

[Mike MacIntosh]

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c/c turn, block river...

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On the river, effective stacks will be $38 in a $119 pot. Blocking the river does not make much sense.

[futuredoc85]

check turn, shove the next time you act provided you still have an overpair

edit: i.e. he bets turn, you CRAI. turn checks through, you shove river

[Mike MacIntosh]

[ QUOTE ]
check turn, shove the next time you act provided you still have an overpair

edit: i.e. he bets turn, you CRAI. turn checks through, you shove river

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Good stuff doc, ty.