Bottom two, all hearts, all broadway flop Nl200

mic83 · #1 06-01-2006, 04:32 AM

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $112.35
UTG+1: $205.50
MP1: $176
MP2: $114.75
CO: $56
Button: $286
SB: $104
Hero: $218.30

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($8, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $7</font>, 2 folds, SB calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($22, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $15</font>, Hero ??

I only have 35 hands on SB and he is something like 22/5/1

Reef · #2 06-01-2006, 04:33 AM

pop it to 55, you can *probably* fold to 3 bet

mic83 · #3 06-01-2006, 04:40 AM

"pop it to 55, you can *probably* fold to 3 bet"

I would fold to a 3bet like 100% of the time i think, but how mutch of his range am i ahead of here?

dmitch442 · #4 06-01-2006, 04:58 AM

I would smooth call there personally see what he does on river, but most likely call down.

CopTHIS · #5 06-01-2006, 05:10 AM

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I would smooth call there personally see what he does on river, but most likely call down.

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Yes, there is nothing wrong with going into cheap showdown mode here and this is not the sort of hand I'd be wanting to make a big pot with. Making a big-ish raise and folding to a reraise, or to a call and bet on the river kinda seems like ensuring you never win at showdown - save that for really strong hands or bluffs.

adanthar · #6 06-01-2006, 08:37 AM

Your hand *sucks* against a 22/5 passive...the only thing you're ahead of is AxQh or maybe AxTh.

I call here but strongly consider folding to a real river bet (if he checks, value betting is fine).

SilverLining1 · #7 06-01-2006, 12:06 PM

WTF is SB calling and then betting here with? 22/5/1 is pretty solid. Like, honestly, the only thing I could see him doing that would put your ahead is representing a made flush with the Qh9 and hoping that you were just betting with an Ax. So, I dunno - you could call here, but what happens if another heart hits? Or if SB bets near the pot again? Or, really, even 3/4 the pot. I mean, it's tough - you have position. I'm tempted to let this go - only 35 hands you say? Meh. If not, then just call and re-evaluate.

A'