400NL: Question about playing JJ versus 2+2er

[wpr101]

Villian is JonnyCosMo. Looking for advice on bet sizing. And we call a push?
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MP ($410.70)
CO ($345.85)
Button ($109.60)
Hero ($607.20)
BB ($585.25)
UTG ($394)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $48</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $147</font>

[Teh1337zor]

definatly dont call a push, I flat call the 48 in this situation most of the time

[wpr101]

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definatly dont call a push, I flat call the 48 in this situation most of the time

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What if it's QQ do we call push?

[Teh1337zor]

I would still lean towards folding if you had qq I really dont like the 3 bet tbh

[wpr101]

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I would still lean towards folding if you had qq I really dont like the 3 bet tbh

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Hmm, maybe I'm playing too loose in battle of the blinds. It's pretty much a heads up hand. I just cannot see folding QQ heads up, I dunno.

[Teh1337zor]

whoopswhoops didnt even take that into account I still flat call JJ 3 bet with QQ and call shove is prob fine

[Get_better_Baris]

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I would still lean towards folding if you had qq I really dont like the 3 bet tbh

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Hmm, maybe I'm playing too loose in battle of the blinds. It's pretty much a heads up hand. I just cannot see folding QQ heads up, I dunno.

[/ QUOTE ] i never agreed with bvb logic. he is just as likly to get a hand as anyone else at table. its not hu unless 4 cards r dealt.

[Get_better_Baris]

alot of these hands latly have been situational and alot of the background info affecting this hand is never stated.
i mean i can get in 1010 get if i was raising his blind everytime or he has 3 bet me alil to often

[wpr101]

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alot of these hands latly have been situational and alot of the background info affecting this hand is never stated.
i mean i can get in 1010 get if i was raising his blind everytime or he has 3 bet me alil to often

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If the info isn't stated it's simply because I didn't have it. If I had a lot of info on his play it would have been helpful for me to post it. I have him as TAG around 18/15. I don't expect him to make moves that often but he could reraise me light here for sure.

[e_hammer]

i dont like the 4 bet. It commits you too early, unless there has been a huge button/blind war going on between you and you think he could be 3 betting extremely light.