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Old 04-22-2006, 10:30 AM
Dhani Dhani is offline
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Default I said it once before, but it bare repeating now

JJ is a riddle. Please offer up your thoughts on JJ in any situation you choose.
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Old 04-22-2006, 11:32 AM
Bruce D Bruce D is offline
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Default Re: I said it once before, but it bare repeating now

Raise any position, reraise any position. Call any 3 bet. Cap to isolate a LAG.

Heads up, likely to go to showdown unless you KNOW your adversary and his tendencies and it is 80-90 clear that he has you beat.

Multiway, one over card on flop play aggressively, two use more caution. Three overcards by the river with no straight.. you're in trouble. 99% show down a set or better.
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Old 04-23-2006, 09:28 PM
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Multiway, one over card on flop play aggressively, two use more caution. Three overcards by the river with no straight.. you're in trouble. 99% show down a set or better.

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Meaning you'll be shown a set or better 99% of the in this scenario?
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Old 04-23-2006, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: I said it once before, but it bare repeating now

This is easy...

RAISE THAT [censored] UP!!!!!!

I'll worry about being beat later. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 04-24-2006, 12:41 AM
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All-in.

Even if it's limit.

ESPECIALLY if it's limit.
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Old 04-24-2006, 05:22 AM
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Its only a riddle if you make it one. It is the fourth best starting hand. Unless you have a very good reason to believe that one of your opponents started with a better hand (like he had to fight through two inches of cobwebs that had formed on his chips, before he could raise with them) you are going to play this strong before the flop, and then reevaluate after the flop when your opponents play back at you. Your reevaluation might mean laying it down, raising again, or going into calldown mode, depending on the board and the opponent. Don't worry about that or think about it, until you need to.
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Old 04-24-2006, 09:12 AM
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Its only a riddle if you make it one. It is the fourth best starting hand. Unless you have a very good reason to believe that one of your opponents started with a better hand (like he had to fight through two inches of cobwebs that had formed on his chips, before he could raise with them) you are going to play this strong before the flop, and then reevaluate after the flop when your opponents play back at you. Your reevaluation might mean laying it down, raising again, or going into calldown mode, depending on the board and the opponent. Don't worry about that or think about it, until you need to.

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this is worth repeating.
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Old 04-24-2006, 11:30 AM
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Its only a riddle if you make it one. It is the fourth best starting hand. Unless you have a very good reason to believe that one of your opponents started with a better hand (like he had to fight through two inches of cobwebs that had formed on his chips, before he could raise with them) you are going to play this strong before the flop, and then reevaluate after the flop when your opponents play back at you. Your reevaluation might mean laying it down, raising again, or going into calldown mode, depending on the board and the opponent. Don't worry about that or think about it, until you need to.

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this is worth repeating.

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Old 04-24-2006, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: I said it once before, but it bare repeating now

See anything in these stats(full ring)?

JJ dealt 295 times
win% 54.2%
BB/hand 0.72
VP$IP 99.3%
W$WSF 51%
PFR% 95%
WTSD% 49.3%
W$SD 54.8%


AKs dealt 231 times
win% 60.6%
BB/hand 1.06
VP$IP 99.2%
W$WSF 56.5%
PFR 94%
WTSD% 47.37%
W$SD 66.7%
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Old 04-24-2006, 01:17 PM
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Even though I play only live, the stats say it all. You will LOSE A LOT. But you will WIN A LOT MORE. The advice on slowing down to 2 overcards sounds good. But a set is stealth bomb and then you want overcards to show up. When JJ goes down three times in a session, you will be unhappy. Last time I played JJ, turn was a J and river paired the board. SEND IT!
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