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Old 11-07-2007, 01:34 AM
lyerly lyerly is offline
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Default Satty question...fold?

I might as well learn WHY my donk moves are donk moves. 29 left with 17 FTOPS avatar packages to be passed around. Doubt it matters but I was moved to this table recently and no stellar reads on this guy:

Full Tilt Poker Game #4094002860: FTOPS Avatar Race (30642178), Table 13 - 400/800 Ante 100 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:23:54 ET - 2007/11/07
Seat 1: Awful Fish (16,866)
Seat 2: MuffBox (10,808)
Seat 3: tvcsa (27,592)
Seat 4: tedsfishfry (37,623)
Seat 5: Deanis24 (4,419)
Seat 6: Malac21 (9,478)
Seat 8: lyerly (11,347)
Seat 9: igorche (14,906)
Awful Fish antes 100
MuffBox antes 100
tvcsa antes 100
tedsfishfry antes 100
Deanis24 antes 100
Malac21 antes 100
lyerly antes 100
igorche antes 100
Malac21 posts the small blind of 400
lyerly posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lyerly [Ad Jd]
igorche folds
Awful Fish has 15 seconds left to act
Awful Fish folds
MuffBox folds
tvcsa folds
tedsfishfry folds
Deanis24 folds
Malac21 raises to 8,000
lyerly raises to 11,247, and is all in
Malac21 calls 1,378, and is all in
lyerly shows [Ad Jd]
Malac21 shows [6d 6c]
Uncalled bet of 1,869 returned to lyerly
*** FLOP *** [Qd 6h Td]
*** TURN *** [Qd 6h Td] [8c]
*** RIVER *** [Qd 6h Td 8c] [3h]
lyerly shows Ace Queen high
Malac21 shows three of a kind, Sixes
Malac21 wins the pot (19,556) with three of a kind, Sixes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 19,556 | Rake 0
Board: [Qd 6h Td 8c 3h]
Seat 1: Awful Fish folded before the Flop
Seat 2: MuffBox folded before the Flop
Seat 3: tvcsa folded before the Flop
Seat 4: tedsfishfry folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Deanis24 (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Malac21 (small blind) showed [6d 6c] and won (19,556) with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 8: lyerly (big blind) showed [Ad Jd] and lost with Ace Queen high
Seat 9: igorche folded before the Flop
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:53 AM
M1cKmAcK M1cKmAcK is offline
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Default Re: Satty question...fold?

I don't see anything wrong with this play. The majority of the time a raise this big means exactly what he has... a spp-mpp. Looks like you needed to double up anyway since you're a table shorty. According to Bond's post earlier today... this is a call. +EV
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:34 AM
Kyer Kyer is offline
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Default Re: Satty question...fold?

You are flipping vs his range. But you can shove so nicely into the similar sized stacks to your left the following hands. I see your chances to make it to the top 17 greater than 55% (or whatever you are vs his range).

Calling here is probably +cEV and -$EV
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:46 AM
BarryLyndon BarryLyndon is offline
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Default Re: Satty question...fold?

What is the chip average / median here? Very important.

Barry
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:49 AM
Dunkman Dunkman is offline
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Default Re: Satty question...fold?

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What is the chip average / median here? Very important.

Barry

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Yeah, it would be helpful to know. I'm inclined to let this pass, although if he's pushing ATC you're solidly ahead of his range. I just hate calling my chips off at the end of a satellite since your FE in these is astronomical. For that reason I'd probably fold.
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:01 PM
sapsuckah sapsuckah is offline
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Default Re: Satty question...fold?

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What is the chip average / median here? Very important.

Barry

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Yeah, it would be helpful to know. I'm inclined to let this pass, although if he's pushing ATC you're solidly ahead of his range. I just hate calling my chips off at the end of a satellite since your FE in these is astronomical. For that reason I'd probably fold.

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These sum it up for me. I think this is a fold.
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