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Old 05-12-2007, 12:44 PM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default I think I smell Value: Two Hands

Two thinnish river raises for your consideration:

Villain is SootedMagic. Seems pretty tag. Has been re-raising me a bit, and I've been folding. He hasn't called out of the blinds much at all yet. I checked the flop mostly because I'm experimenting with lines involving flop checks.

I've been splashing around a bit, and winning a lot of pots without showdown. I haven't had to show down a bluff in a big pot, yet.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

<font color="black">SB: $405.90</font>
BB: $134.00
UTG: $149.10
MP: $495.80
CO: $797.00
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $2,063.65</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14.00</font>, SB calls $12.00, BB folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($32) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($32) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $25.00</font>, SB calls $25.00

<font color="black">River:</font> ($82) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $60.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $2,024.65</font>

$300 to call

Villain is mostly unknown. I've been playing pretty agro and running over a lot of players. Villain seems like a TAG fish. Haven't seen him do anything notable.

This seems pretty standard with AK, but I wonder if it's too thin with AQ?

I just smooth called PF because I figure to end up HU in position, at this table, and there are a lot of fun lines that involve CCing here.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $390.00
BB: $393.50
<font color="black">UTG: $400.00</font>
MP: $194.00
<font color="black">Hero (CO): $2,498.65</font>
BTN: $680.90

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $14.00</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $14.00, 3 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($34) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($34) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

<font color="black">River:</font> ($34) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $20.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $70.00</font>
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:49 PM
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Default Re: I think I smell Value: Two Hands

I don't like h1 without any kind of loose image going on, h2 looks good.
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Old 05-12-2007, 09:58 PM
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Default Re: I think I smell Value: Two Hands

dont like 1 very much, I'd put him on a completed or busted draw more than a semi-made hand like Ax.

2 is fine
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Old 05-12-2007, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: I think I smell Value: Two Hands

In hand1 you said
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Seems pretty tag

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....I would pretty much never push here for value unless hes loose/bad or theres history.
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Old 05-12-2007, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: I think I smell Value: Two Hands

both are pretty bad

hand 1 he has a busted draw/bluff or a hand that beats you he doesnt have Axs very often here and if he does its with the intention of bet/folding

if you are going to raise then just minraise, shoving is terrible

hand 2 is almost as bad he either has nothing AJAQAK or some FPS played 7 or TT, he isnt bet calling with a weak ace

he has no reason to valuebet a weak ace because you simply arent calling with anything worse
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Old 05-13-2007, 02:02 AM
SuperPokerJedi SuperPokerJedi is offline
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Default Re: I think I smell Value: Two Hands

What do you expect him to call in the first hand that you beat?? ? ? ? ?
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Old 05-13-2007, 02:08 AM
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Default Re: I think I smell Value: Two Hands

what everyone else said: hand 2 &gt;&gt;&gt; hand 1
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Old 05-13-2007, 02:34 AM
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Default Re: I think I smell Value: Two Hands

HAND 1 HE MIGHT HAVE A STRAIGHT

HAND 2 IS GOOT
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Old 05-13-2007, 04:35 AM
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Default Re: I think I smell Value: Two Hands

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What do you expect him to call in the first hand that you beat?? ? ? ? ?

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Maybe too optimistic, but my feeling at the time was that he had a weak A a ton of the time, and might convince himself to call.

AQ and AK would be really easy shoves, right?

Would you like a raise there if it was smaller? It's only a pot sized raise.
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Old 05-13-2007, 05:45 AM
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Default Re: I think I smell Value: Two Hands

ballin vbets jimmy boy

both are sexy

-ec10
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