Jimmy Rollins - Philly sports talk radio rant

[SL__72]

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Ban OP.

Rollins was the best shortstop in the NL last year.

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Ban.

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Actually you could make a good case that he is.

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Wingbowl Holla.

[rja87]

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Yea, don't you guys realize that defense improves with age?

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He's 23, so by your logic he's going to be worse next year because he will be 24? Makes sense.

[Vyse]

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He's 23, so by your logic he's going to be worse next year because he will be 24? Makes sense.

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Actually, you mean by your logic -- stop the strawman.

[Jack of Arcades]

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Yea, don't you guys realize that defense improves with age?

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He's 23, so by your logic he's going to be worse next year because he will be 24? Makes sense.

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Defense peaks real early, especially in shortstops. I doubt he'll get worse because it's hard to get worse, but unless he seriously works on technique I'll doubt he'll significantly improve.

[Bdidd]

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Ban OP.

Rollins was the best shortstop in the NL last year.

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Ban. Actually you could make a good case that he is.

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Actually, its pretty easy making a case for [censored] thats true.

OP obviously has no idea what he is talking about when it comes to baseball.

[rja87]

Even if his defense doesn't improve, which I think it will, he is still much more valuable than Rollins because of his superior hitting. Rollins topped out with a very good year for him, and Hanley was still better and he is just going to improve.

[En Passant]

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Ban OP.

Rollins was the best shortstop in the NL last year.

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Ban. Actually you could make a good case that he is.

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Actually, its pretty easy making a case for [censored] thats true.

OP obviously has no idea what he is talking about when it comes to baseball.


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It appears that you have a reading comprehension problem. Where did I say that Rollins wasn't the best shortstop last year? I said that Rollins is not the best shortstop in baseball, meaning, he won't be the best shortstop for the upcoming season.

If you have a choice at Ramirez, Reyes, or Rollins next year for just one year, you would be crazy to pick Rollins 1st or 2nd.

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Even if his defense doesn't improve, which I think it will, he is still much more valuable than Rollins because of his superior hitting. Rollins topped out with a very good year for him, and Hanley was still better and he is just going to improve.

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If you look at the +/- fielding rankings posted earlier in this thread, it is pretty obvious that Rollins was a more valuable player this year then Hanley. Hanley is a crazy good hitter, but he isn't 44 runs better then JRoll at the plate... Other fielding metrics show a similar gap in their fielding.

That said, going forward, I too would probably rather have Hanley... but mostly because he is so much younger.

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Even if his defense doesn't improve, which I think it will, he is still much more valuable than Rollins because of his superior hitting. Rollins topped out with a very good year for him, and Hanley was still better and he is just going to improve.

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If you look at the +/- fielding rankings posted earlier in this thread, it is pretty obvious that Rollins was a more valuable player this year then Hanley. Hanley is a crazy good hitter, but he isn't 44 runs better then JRoll at the plate... Other fielding metrics show a similar gap in their fielding.

That said, going forward, I too would probably rather have Hanley... but mostly because he is so much younger.

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+7 is the highest Ive seen Rollins and -37 the absolute lowest Ive seen Ramirez, both by quite a bit.

Rollins -3 Ramirez -22

Rollins -2 Ramirez -27