77 in mw-pot the board pairs on turn

Gurravasa · #1 10-10-2007, 05:27 AM

Button is 68/26/1 over 285 hands and my notes on him is that he raised a MP on the flop and donked TP on flop.

SB i have no notes on and only 100 hands where he's 34/20/1,4

BB is 70/35/0,8 over 80 hands no notes

Svenska Spel
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: SEK 50/100
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (12SB, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, Button bets, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8BB, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, Button bets, SB calls, BB folds, Hero...

How strong is my hand here? How do I play river if I call? Should I raise? Should I have donked?

Oink · #2 10-10-2007, 05:31 AM

Cant fold

You have SB beat always and button is 2nd barreling overcards.

I am thinking about putting in a raise on either flop or turn. But maybe calling down is just best

sweetjazz · #3 10-10-2007, 05:35 AM

I think there's too much in not raising somewhere. I'd usually just c/r the flop and go from there. But given your line, I'd go ahead and c/r the turn, that's a really good card for you.

Even if you always pay off a 3bet and river bet when behind, I think there's still value in getting 6 out hands to fold and/or put in 1 or (usually 2) more bets when you have a big equity edge.

The expert play is to raise and then spike the 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on the river.

Gurravasa · #4 10-10-2007, 05:40 AM

I think I like the raise on turn better, I think my equity could change a lot on the turn card, and I don't expect to get to much FE against theese guys with a flopraise. If I raise turn and get two calls, how do I play an A or K on river?

timoK · #5 10-10-2007, 06:05 AM

I want to see a SD in that hand with these opponents unless a Ace hit on the river.

but c/r the flop is spew imo.
didnt everybody get least 17:1 and depending on the ranges your equity is 28% at its best.

timoK · #6 10-10-2007, 06:08 AM

your equity improves a lot on the turn btw.

Olrik · #7 10-10-2007, 06:26 AM

what about donking the flop hoping that BU will raise and do the protection for us?

timoK · #8 10-10-2007, 07:08 AM

donking might do the job if BU will raise hands like KJ or Adx
That should knock out SB and BBs overs and even 88

Gurravasa · #9 10-10-2007, 07:25 AM

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your equity improves a lot on the turn btw.

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I think my equity is about 40% on turn after BB folds.

Gurravasa · #10 10-10-2007, 07:27 AM

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donking might do the job if BU will raise hands like KJ or Adx
That should knock out SB and BBs overs and even 88

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I doubt that this guy would raise hands like that on this flop.