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11-27-2007, 05:18 PM
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Re: An EDF Introspective: S.R.E.A.M.
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We call in to question soooo many motivational tools such as money, religion, obligation to others, spite, etc, but it seems like sex is the one invincible, pure, irrefutable motivator in our species [/ QUOTE ] Seriously. I know you don't want to get into the "its natural" argument because there isn't a good argument there. But that's about it. Your purpose as a member of the species, ultimately, is to keep the species going. You do this by having sex. Therefore, sex drive is built in, or evolved in, or however you want to look at it. You might have more fertile ground (so to speak) investigating the quality/quantity bifurcation between male and female reproductive behavior systems. 
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11-27-2007, 05:48 PM
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Re: An EDF Introspective: S.R.E.A.M.
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I know you don't want to get into the "its natural" argument because there isn't a good argument there. But that's about it. Your purpose as a member of the species, ultimately, is to keep the species going. You do this by having sex. Therefore, sex drive is built in, or evolved in, or however you want to look at it. [/ QUOTE ] OK, as long as you can agree with what I am about to write, I think all that needs to be said about "it's natural" argument will have been said. 1. Many people have sex for bad reasons and for reasons they don't understand. 2. The "it's natural" argument suggests that the motivations rooted in sex are completely out of our own control. 3. The people referenced in point 1 would gravitate toward using point 2 as a rationalization to perpetuate their unhealthy behaviors. 4. These people would benefit from from having point 2 disproven (something I can't do). They would benefit from that because it would make them more likely to understand why they view sex the way they do.
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11-27-2007, 07:41 PM
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Re: An EDF Introspective: S.R.E.A.M.
Hey gonores. Cool, I like the direction you're going with this. I'm going to take it one step at a time though.
[ QUOTE ] 1. Many people have sex for bad reasons and for reasons they don't understand. [/ QUOTE ] Um, what's a bad reason for having sex?
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11-27-2007, 07:48 PM
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Re: An EDF Introspective: S.R.E.A.M.
Money, guilt, boredom
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11-27-2007, 08:18 PM
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Money, guilt, boredom [/ QUOTE ] As long as its not coerced in any way I see nothing wrong with having sex for money. Yes, i know the law disagrees with me. Alleviating boredom would seem to be a good reason to have sex to me. And frankly, I don't even understand saving sex because of guilt. Like you feel bad about something you did so you have sex to feel better? Like that? [ QUOTE ] You're [censored] a sheep. [/ QUOTE ] That's a bad /way/ to have sex, not a bad reason, more akin to sexual abuse or sexual violence. Kinda like rape, as the sheep is not a person it cannot consent to having sex with you, so the sex is non-consensual. The act of sex is bad, not the reason.
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11-27-2007, 08:16 PM
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Is there a logical argument to suggest that fueling the sex drive can ultimately lead to fulfillment or happiness? [/ QUOTE ] Sex is more of a temporary fulfillment of what the majority precieve as happiness. (We get the impression early on that the more sex we have the happier we will be.) However, I think that as we get older and began to have some stability in our lives that sex (for the sake of happiness) isn't much of an issue.
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11-28-2007, 01:48 AM
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Sex is more of a temporary fulfillment of what the majority precieve as happiness. (We get the impression early on that the more sex we have the happier we will be.) [/ QUOTE ] Really well put. I agree with your sentiment. What are the chances you could expound upon what exactly it is that creates that temporary perception of fulfillment?
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11-28-2007, 01:43 AM
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Re: An EDF Introspective: S.R.E.A.M.
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Um, what's a bad reason for having sex? [/ QUOTE ] This is really, really broad, but I guess the main "bad reason" I had in mind would be when you have sex for the sake of validation or acceptance even though your partner either cannot or will not validate you as a person. Another big one would be to distract you from some negative feeling or situation.
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