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02-17-2007, 03:37 PM
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Not 4-betting a lot in $100NL
I find people tend to be really tight in their reraises, so it is better to flat call a reraise regardless of whether you have a big hand or not. A lot of times if you have AA you cause someone to fold, but if you have AK, you get allin against AA or KK.
I play aggressively preflop, so I get reraised more than most people. If I think someone is making a play on me, then I may 4-bet without a big hand or 4-bet with a big hand thinking they won't believe me and give me action. I Or I might have AA and think the other person has QQ-KK or AK, in which case, I will 4-bet looking for action. For example, I posted in CO and open raised with AKo. A regular who knows my style and plays back at me reraised. I 4-bet and he folded. In this case, I was not that happy with playing AK postflop without the initiative, and thought he would fold to my 4-bet or flop push. In general, some people are so tight with there reraising standards that it doesn't make sense to 4-bet a lot. 
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02-17-2007, 03:40 PM
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Re: Not 4-betting a lot in $100NL
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For example, I posted in CO and open raised with AKo. A regular who knows my style and plays back at me reraised. I 4-bet and he folded. In this case, I was not that happy with playing AK postflop without the initiative, and thought he would fold to my 4-bet or flop push. [/ QUOTE ] Was this hand against me?
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02-17-2007, 03:50 PM
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Re: Not 4-betting a lot in $100NL
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[ QUOTE ] For example, I posted in CO and open raised with AKo. A regular who knows my style and plays back at me reraised. I 4-bet and he folded. In this case, I was not that happy with playing AK postflop without the initiative, and thought he would fold to my 4-bet or flop push. [/ QUOTE ] Was this hand against me? [/ QUOTE ] No, omahondo, who is not as much of a regular as you, as generally a fairly tight player.
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02-17-2007, 03:54 PM
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Re: Not 4-betting a lot in $100NL
In summary here are you saying 4-betting without AA or KK is a mistake unless a specific situation calls for it?
There was a hand similar to the one you described that we were involved in and I laid AK down to you. Hope it wasn't that big of a mistake!
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#6
02-17-2007, 03:57 PM
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Re: Not 4-betting a lot in $100NL
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I dont remember the last time I 4b someone or I was 4b at FR. [/ QUOTE ] I did it last night and 33 called me...posted in the happy thread on the v-days happy thread...i merely called the 3-bet and got it allin on the flop way ahead like everything else, it is knowing your opponents and picking your spots
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#7
02-17-2007, 04:20 PM
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Re: Not 4-betting a lot in $100NL
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In summary here are you saying 4-betting without AA or KK is a mistake unless a specific situation calls for it? There was a hand similar to the one you described that we were involved in and I laid AK down to you. Hope it wasn't that big of a mistake! [/ QUOTE ] You started reraising me all the time, so I 4-bet you some. I don't know what I had, but I may have been the favorite with an underpair. No, I am saying sometimes don't 4-bet with AA or KK either. You often get more action by letting the reraiser keep the initiative. Like everything else, I 4-bet with a mixture of hands and based on the situation. Sometimes it is fine to 4-bet with junk. If you only did it with AA or KK, it would be too easy for people to fold. I am a tournament player, so I have a tendency to automatically 4-bet QQ+, AK. I think some people also go too far in not 4-betting in FR.
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02-17-2007, 04:48 PM
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Re: Not 4-betting a lot in $100NL
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[ QUOTE ] I am a tournament player [/ QUOTE ] lol donkaments. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] In all the other forums people look down on "donkaments". I have been doing pretty well playing them, I guess because they are so soft. Playing tournaments may lead to a more aggressive style. You get used to reraising allin with suited connectors, Kxs, broadway cards, and small pairs late in tournaments. This is different from people with a limit holdem grinder backgoround, who have learned to just play medium and big pps and big aces and raise them preflop and thn bet every street.
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#10
02-17-2007, 05:03 PM
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Re: Not 4-betting a lot in $100NL
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In all the other forums people look down on "donkaments". I have been doing pretty well playing them, I guess because they are so soft. Playing tournaments may lead to a more aggressive style. You get used to reraising allin with suited connectors, Kxs, broadway cards, and small pairs late in tournaments. This is different from people with a limit holdem grinder backgoround, who have learned to just play medium and big pps and big aces and raise them preflop and thn bet every street. [/ QUOTE ] I used to play SNGs almost exclusively so I have been subject to the "heckling" as well. But if we're calling a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] cash games are much more difficult to play well. I don't think you should be offended because you play both and succeed in both. By the way, do you have a backer? The reason I'm asking is because the tournaments you play seem to be quite bigger (relatively) to the cash games you play.
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