$50NL - Flush draw on the button

Landlord79 · #1 09-12-2007, 12:03 AM

MP2 is 47/10/.9
CO is 42/6/x
Not a lot of hands on either player.

I was running about 22/10/2 for the night.

Please critique through the all in, should this be a raise pf? Is the initial call of $9 an error?

Bodog No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|saw showdown

UTG ($57.70)
UTG+1 ($9.00)
MP1 ($51.44)
MP2 ($49.75)
MP3 ($32.80)
CO ($55.95)
Hero ($48.25)
SB ($22.00)
BB ($91.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets $3, CO raises to $9, Hero calls $9, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP2 raises to $18, CO bets $55.45 (All-In), Hero calls $47.75 (All-In), MP2 calls $49.25 (All-In).

dividius · #2 09-12-2007, 12:36 AM

I like PF and I like the $9 call. Then comes the tricky part.

I don't see how CO doesn't have K10. You need the right odds to hit your flush, cause 2-pair or trips probably ain't gonna cut it. There's ~80 in the pot when it gets back to you, and you have ~40 left. MP2 still has ~30 behind. MP2 has led a limp flop and then re-raised a re-raiser and a caller. I know it's a donkish min-raise, but that still shows strength, so it's reasonable to assume that they're coming along as well. (Which, they obviously did.)

You're essentially putting in ~40 to win ~110, and you need to hit your flush, which you'll do about 30% of the time. You're almost getting 3-1, so it's close. Personally, I lay this down online and wait for a better spot. If this is a live game, I'm more apt to stick it in. I'm weird like that.

edit: It should also be noted that if CO or MP2 have K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]10[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 1/3 of your outs just got flushed down the toilet. The chances of that are small, but it's a marginal call either way. When you combine that with the (also small) chances that MP2 could fold, and the fact that you're not quite getting the right price even if MP2 does come, it might compel some to be more apt to fold.

BJJIII · #3 09-12-2007, 09:47 AM

No need to raise PF, they are calling you regardless. I am going to the river with TP and nut flush draw regardless if its online or live.

I think you played it fine. Hope you got lucky.

Landlord79 · #4 09-12-2007, 09:57 AM

In reviewing the hand on PT last night, I think that the initial call of $9 was bad, as I was getting 1.6 to 1 odds for one card with multiple players to act behind me and one of them already active in the pot.

If there hadn't of been a made str8 possible, I think going to the felt w/ TP + NFD is fine. Like Dividius said, two pair or trip outs are no good.

On the flop, I think I should have discounted my outs for at least one or two flush cards in my opponents hand, thus, making the $9 call worse, and the AI call marginal.

BJJIII · #5 09-12-2007, 10:59 AM

Yeah I hate cold calling 2 bets.

If you were going to fold the time to fold was to the $9 raise, but the way you played it I dont think there was anyway you could have folded once it got back around to you and so much money was in the pot.

effang · #6 09-12-2007, 11:03 AM

this is fine after your initial cold call on the flop.

there maybe 1/2 diamonds floating around, but it's probably set/2p and straight.

that means, if all the money is going in, then you should call, since you have 30% EV.