AKo deep, weird spot pf

[HiBaCHi]

utg+1 is 20/15 good reg
3better is 17/14 not much history besides a couple of setup hands
sb is 57/19 fish

i was playing pretty standard TAG (19/15ish) but the non-fish may or may not have me as looser (25/20ish)


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($281.25)
SB ($309.25)
Hero ($379)
UTG ($240)
MP ($379.30)
CO ($73.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $26</font>, SB calls $25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ????

What's the plan here?

[Readzie]

sb cold calling... hmm, has odds to set mine soo thats possible. I say raise to 100-115 call push from button, fold if button folds then sb goes all in.

or fold preflop, depends how aggro you feel like being, cold calling is awful though

[Claunchy]

This is a pretty standard fold.

[DanJ.]

wait, wats the reads and stats? button is the 3bettor and u have two different stats...anyways, id probably 4bet to $150 and call shove. Your not really too deep and if you assume that SB and MP both fold 4betting is +EV given these ranges for btn - Initial 3bet range: 99+,AJs+,KQs,T9s,98s,87s,76s,AJo+
calling 4betshove range/5bet shove range: KK+

[Readzie]

but why would you think that the SB is auto folding. why not raise to 100 and leave room to fold to his re push.

the only reason i can say that he would auto fold is that the SB can only call you with AA or KK and well guess what.. you have some of those outs.

i vote for raise to 115ish, call a button push and fold to SB re push,

(edit: without pahud i muck this preflop, pahud can be a bitch, ive only been using it one day and my winrates are definitly going DOWN because i get into hands like this now)

[HiBaCHi]

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wait, wats the reads and stats? button is the 3bettor and u have two different stats...anyways, id probably 4bet to $150 and call shove. Your not really too deep and if you assume that SB and MP both fold 4betting is +EV given these ranges for btn - Initial 3bet range: 99+,AJs+,KQs,T9s,98s,87s,76s,AJo+
calling 4betshove range/5bet shove range: KK+

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utg+1=MP
3better=button

not sure on button's 3betting range but it's definitely not that loose. probably not much wider than TT+, AQo+.

[DanJ.]

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but why would you think that the SB is auto folding. why not raise to 100 and leave room to fold to his re push.

the only reason i can say that he would auto fold is that the SB can only call you with AA or KK and well guess what.. you have some of those outs.

i vote for raise to 115ish, call a button push and fold to SB re push,

(edit: without pahud i muck this preflop, pahud can be a bitch, ive only been using it one day and my winrates are definitly going DOWN because i get into hands like this now)



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That doesnt make sense to me...id be more likely to call SB's shove then call btns shove...

im assuming SB is the 57/20 fish or watev btw.

[Claunchy]

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SB is 57/19 fish

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FYP I think.

[DanJ.]

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wait, wats the reads and stats? button is the 3bettor and u have two different stats...anyways, id probably 4bet to $150 and call shove. Your not really too deep and if you assume that SB and MP both fold 4betting is +EV given these ranges for btn - Initial 3bet range: 99+,AJs+,KQs,T9s,98s,87s,76s,AJo+
calling 4betshove range/5bet shove range: KK+

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utg+1=MP
3better=button

not sure on button's 3betting range but it's definitely not that loose. probably not much wider than TT+, AQo+.

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If its that tight then fold, calling oop with AK is pretty ghey and raising is -EV.

[Readzie]

well he says both things so now iam confused. you know what i ment though.

fold if 3 bettor is the normal player. (preflop)
raise to 115 if its the 57/20 dude and call his all in push if he does continue on.