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Old 10-16-2007, 05:43 PM
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Default KK flop play?

Villain is 37/26/3.6 over 245 hands

I was wandering what others would do here? should i bet?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $17.40
CO: $11.65
Hero (BTN): $26.95
SB: $9.70
BB: $22.90
UTG: $11.60

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $0.35</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1</font>, CO calls $0.65

Flop: ($2.15) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Results: $2.15 Pot ($2.15 Rake)

ty

i will post the other streets after some replies.
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: KK flop play?

Bet the flop, fold to a raise. His range is wider than just Ax, even with the 3bet pre.
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:50 PM
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Default Re: KK flop play?

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Bet the flop, fold to a raise. His range is wider than just Ax, even with the 3bet pre.

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Agreed. You make the hand much more difficult to play by checking here.
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: KK flop play?

Flop check is good.
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:57 PM
Eric Draven Eric Draven is offline
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Default Re: KK flop play?

Why raise? I can't see a better hand folding or a worse hand calling...

I check, and probably call a turn bet and maybe a reasonable river bet as well, depending on the cards and action on the turn and river.
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: KK flop play?

If you check the flop, you should be betting turn and river for value. Flop check is okay.

I'd make it 1.2 or 1.3 pre as well.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: KK flop play?

Heres how the rest of that hand played out, I think he thinks im alot weaker then KK here but im baffled by his river bet.
How would you play turn? is this an easy river fold?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $17.40
CO: $11.65
Hero (BTN): $26.95
SB: $9.70
BB: $22.90
UTG: $11.60

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $0.35</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1</font>, CO calls $0.65

Flop: ($2.15) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($2.15) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $1.50</font>, Hero calls $1.50

River: ($5.15) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $8</font>

Hero?
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: KK flop play?

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Flop check is good.

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no it isnt
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:16 PM
21SuicideKing21 21SuicideKing21 is offline
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Default Re: KK flop play?

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Flop check is good.

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no it isnt

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Completely agree, you could take the pot right here and if he calls here, you would be in position the rest of the hand and also it doesn't mean he has an Ace.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:17 PM
21SuicideKing21 21SuicideKing21 is offline
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Heres how the rest of that hand played out, I think he thinks im alot weaker then KK here but im baffled by his river bet.
How would you play turn? is this an easy river fold?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $17.40
CO: $11.65
Hero (BTN): $26.95
SB: $9.70
BB: $22.90
UTG: $11.60

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $0.35</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1</font>, CO calls $0.65

Flop: ($2.15) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($2.15) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $1.50</font>, Hero calls $1.50

River: ($5.15) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $8</font>

Hero?

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Here I'm folding, looks weird that he overbets, but what could you be beating here besides a bluff.
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