Is SNGPT ever wrong?

[kinger]

I made this push because I thought it would be +EV in SNGPT and it was. In SNGPT it is +.5 EV against average opponents and my opponents were very typical. In SNGPT if I make both the blinds loose and the other two average, then it is still +.3 EV

But after thinking about it, I have a hard time believing this hand is EV with 4 people left to act behind me. Is it possible that SNGPT has errors in it? Or is this in fact +EV?

thanks!
kinger

Stack sizes:
Hero: $4595
CO: $3390
Button: $3745
SB: $1595
BB: $1675

300/600

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with 3h; Td;
Hero raises all-in $4595, 3 folds, BB calls all-in $1675.
Uncalled bets: $2320 returned to Hero.


Flop: Kc; Kd; 6d; ($2875, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $4850)



Turn: 2c; ($2875, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $4850)



River: 9h; ($2875, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $4850)



Results:
Final pot: $2875
BB shows Qc Ah
Hero shows 3h Td

[Sober]

Your stack size is the only thing that matters here, at least as far as pure mathematical EV goes.

[ryanghall]

You are horrendously misapplying SNGPT. Rely less on it and more on common sense.

Ryan

[kinger]

ryan, so pushing here is -EV?

[Shillx]

Sngpt is wrong all the time though not in this specific case. This is user error.

[Jshuttlesworth]

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ryan, so pushing here is -EV?

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it's really not that bad

[Jshuttlesworth]

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ryan, so pushing here is -EV?

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it's really not that bad

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i take that back

[craigmarq]

Pushing UTG with junk maybe mathmatically slightly +ev, but thats going to be only just and its primarily due to your stack size. Use common sense first, and SNGPT to confirm your thoughts. It even says in the tutorial if an action is close he advocates folding.

[Shillx]

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ryan, so pushing here is -EV?

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it's really not that bad

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Lol I just estimated the optimal pushing % at 40 and it is pretty damn close to that. Pushing T3o against adjusted calling ranges is -1.1%

e: This in no way argues for a call or fold. This is simply what SNGPT tells you to do

[Jshuttlesworth]

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Pushing UTG with junk maybe mathmatically slightly +ev, but thats going to be only just and its primarily due to your stack size.

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So?