5/10 NL, trips facing river c/r

Tokyo!! · #1 01-23-2007, 06:00 AM

Villain is Xaston. He runs at roughly 30/23, is pretty darned aggro, and already got his stack in twice so far on flops where he was pretty far behind twice with draws. Once he bet/3bet QJ on KTx board and got stacked by AK. The other time he 3bet KsJs from the button vs a solid reg, then c-bet on the AsQsQd flop and called the c/r allin getting like 1.8 to 1 or so. Basically, he loves to shove his stack in the middle. However, wtf in this hand. He seems really strong. Comments on all streets appreciated. UTG just sat down, so no read on him. CO is a megafish and I was trying to be in as many pots as possible with him.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG ($1000)
MP ($1387)
CO ($3005.15)
Hero ($2565)
SB ($950)
BB ($1798)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $40, 1 fold, CO calls $40, Hero calls $40, 1 fold, BB calls $30.

Flop: ($165) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $50, CO folds, Hero raises to $170, BB calls $170, UTG folds.

Turn: ($555) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($555) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $375, BB raises to $1588, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $2518

sasha · #2 01-23-2007, 06:52 AM

Looks like 55
I don"t think worst q will check raise this river
checking flop, and cold calling $170 is very strong.
Looks alot like 55, I like the fold

luckychewy · #3 01-23-2007, 07:00 AM

ime with xaston he can be pretty tough when he's on his game but he can also be a huge spewtard. i can't see how he has a worse q here, though i guess it's possible. not sure if i could fold it vs. him, i would usually bet turn though and get it in if he wants solely because if you give him a flop range of qx and 55 there are more qx hands. obv this range changes as he c/r's riv, though it is often correct to attempt a riv c/r if a turn c/r fails. either way i think it's very close and can't fault a call or a fold, but i would lean towards a call based on the description and history.

jrbick · #4 01-23-2007, 07:05 AM

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but i would lean towards a call based on the description and history.

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Not only that but your hand looks like one that he can blow you off of w/ a play like this.

luckychewy · #5 01-23-2007, 07:07 AM

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but i would lean towards a call based on the description and history.

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Not only that but your hand looks like one that he can blow you off of w/ a play like this.

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ya i was going to add this...but villain cold-called a bet and a raise on the flop oop. very unlikely even he shows up with air here.

DJ Sensei · #6 01-23-2007, 07:08 AM

turn check is fine IF you intend to raise the river, or call a c/r. his coldcall almost always indicates trips, and occasionally will be 55.

your hand is good (or chopping) here quite often, because you own most trips that he could have, and your line doesnt look like you have a very strong hand yourself.

also, why no reraise preflop here, seems like a pretty good spot for it?

sasha · #7 01-23-2007, 07:14 AM

Yes he does look like he was playing for pot controll, but what could villain possibly call the flop with?
He either has Q, or 55.
There is not a single draw
It would be very bold of him to raise you on river all in with kq, or qj.
He must know thast you would pbly fold all worst hands.
I think at best you are chopping.

mikeJ · #8 01-23-2007, 07:18 AM

It matters if he knows who you are and if he's any good.

This is a sick bluff line if he was 2nd leveling you.

JKratzer · #9 01-23-2007, 08:10 AM

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The other time he 3bet KsJs from the button vs a solid reg, then c-bet on the AsQsQd flop and called the c/r allin getting like 1.8 to 1 or so.

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Xaston · #10 01-23-2007, 08:25 AM

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It matters if he knows who you are and if he's any good.

This is a sick bluff line if he was 2nd leveling you.

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I didn't "know" who he was at the time, but I did recognize his SN as somewhat of a regular. I only watch $5/$10 occasionally, but don't play it like ever. But I was pretty sure I had seen his name before in the small amount of time I've watched the game. I play almost exclusively $2/$4 and $3/$6 and was taking a little shot at $5/$10 tonight because I've been running pretty well this month.

I'm not gonna say what I had, but I think checking the turn here against me was a mistake. Although I think T, J, and K are the worst turn cards, the ten is the least severe of them.