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Old 08-07-2007, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: QQ 4 bet pot, flop action

not a fan of the 4 bet PF in this situation
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Old 08-07-2007, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: QQ 4 bet pot, flop action

if people 3bet me a lot im going to be 4betting wide enough that QQ is straight value/bluff inducer.
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Old 08-07-2007, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: QQ 4 bet pot, flop action

anyway the point of this post is i pushed the flop and he snap called KK obv. oh well but ive been thinking a lot lately and am wondering if the best players can get away from QQ to KK or AA without losing their stack, I see it happen everyday, everytime someone has it they get stacked,

there has to be a better way...
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Old 08-07-2007, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: QQ 4 bet pot, flop action

Agree to disagree I guess.
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Old 08-07-2007, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: QQ 4 bet pot, flop action

does utg + 1 like to reraise a lot? And can someone explain how to read stats when they're posted or point me to an article that explains them?
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Old 08-07-2007, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: QQ 4 bet pot, flop action

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anyway the point of this post is i pushed the flop and he snap called KK obv. oh well but ive been thinking a lot lately and am wondering if the best players can get away from QQ to KK or AA without losing their stack, I see it happen everyday, everytime someone has it they get stacked,

there has to be a better way...

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4-bet push miiiiiight make someone fold KK/QQ if the stacks are deeper. But if I'm the 3-better with KK, I'm going to be very very hard-pressed to make that fold.

I'm sure that KK holds up enough to be profitable to risk losing the stack to AA. Can't fold that if I can put you on QQ+|AK|AQ. Maybe you specifically won't do that with AK|AQ but enough people will.
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Old 08-07-2007, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: QQ 4 bet pot, flop action

im mainly talking QQ, not necesarily KK which is hardly ever profitable to fold in those situations
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Old 08-07-2007, 06:38 PM
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<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $14</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $36</font>

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sound the alarm.
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:37 PM
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does utg + 1 like to reraise a lot? And can someone explain how to read stats when they're posted or point me to an article that explains them?

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Try the FAQ at the top of this forum.
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:41 PM
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Default Re: QQ 4 bet pot, flop action

Why not just bet out here and if he pushes decide whether he has AA or KK , a lot of players like to just flat call the 4 bet preflop with AA or KK in hopes of a trap where the guy stacks off with JJ QQ
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