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#1
10-05-2007, 07:26 PM
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50NL: I CR Bluff River
The more I think about this hand, the more I hate it. I don't really have a read on the BTN. I think if he had a big pair he would have bet the turn, and I shouldn't be trying to move him off a big pair anyway.
Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players LegoPoker Hand History Converter BTN: $61.05 SB: $33.35 Hero (BB): $50 UTG: $25.85 MP: $51.65 CO: $44 Pre-Flop: 4  4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $2.10</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $1.60 Flop: ($4.45) 5  8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 (2 Players)Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $4.45</font>, Hero calls $4.45 Turn: ($13.35) 7 (2 Players)Hero checks, BTN checks River: ($13.35) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $6</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18.50</font> 
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#3
10-05-2007, 07:42 PM
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Re: 50NL: I CR Bluff River
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No. [/ QUOTE ] What's the point of even replying? I thought mods were banning the one word answers. Get'm boys! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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#4
10-05-2007, 07:44 PM
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Re: 50NL: I CR Bluff River
I CR bluff more than most players but, what's up with your bet sizing??
That river raise is <60% psr - not really going to fold much - esp an overpair. What are you repping? A8, boat, JT?? You prob 3b pf w/ an overpair. You just call pf, flop and turn. Turn become a little more drawy. 9 may have completed draws. I would assume you either 3b or fold a hand like middle suited connectors (78, etc). Don't see you calling a pfr w/ A8, K8, etc. He's never going to believe you called pf and flop w/ 66 and went for a river CR when the turn checked through. Maybe if you bet turn and make a real bet/raise on river...as played - no.
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#5
10-05-2007, 07:45 PM
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Re: 50NL: I CR Bluff River
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[ QUOTE ] No. [/ QUOTE ] What's the point of even replying? I thought mods were banning the one word answers. Get'm boys! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ]
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#6
10-05-2007, 08:24 PM
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Re: 50NL: I CR Bluff River
I never played at the $50NL tables much, but I can't imagine this working very often.
Yes, a check-raise is a powerful tool. Yes, people can bluff the river. Yes, you look like you've got a monster. Against a tight player (especially a weak-tight player), this might be a profitable line. If you had tons of history with villain and told us that you knew his tendencies, you could make a strong case for this being the best move. Note the "if" in that statement. In this case, you don't know anything about villain. Here's a great rule to follow: When in doubt, trust your opponent. You have no idea how much money I've lost when -- after just sitting down at a table, or after an opponent just sits down at a table -- I catch a fairly strong hand (say, TP2K) and I call off 50-100BBs against someone betting the unbreakable nuts. I decided that he was trying to bluff me, or getting out of line, or testing the newbie, or a maniac, or a donk, or not giving me any credit, or some such nonsense. Don't get fancy against an unknown. And just in case the message didn't sink in, a river check-raise bluff is about as fancy as you can get.
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#7
10-05-2007, 10:24 PM
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Re: 50NL: I CR Bluff River
Well, I agree with you Pokey. I definitely shouldn't be doing this against an unknown. I should have just folded, but his weakish bet got the better of me. Just a bad play by me. I blame watching too much HSP. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Villain had 66. Surprisingly, he took awhile to call.
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