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Old 08-08-2007, 05:41 PM
$upermad4it $upermad4it is offline
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Default 44 SB vs BB levelling?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $61.00
BB: $94.40
UTG: $489.20
CO: $534.30
Hero (BTN): $544.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $14.00</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $14.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($34) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $25.00</font>, Hero calls $25.00

Turn: ($84) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $65.00</font>, Hero calls $65.00

River: ($214) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $155.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $440.00</font>


OK so I have no idea what he has but I reckon he's putting me on something like...44
So it would make sense for him to DB the turn and carry through on the river with air. Hows my line? Standard TAG btw.
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Old 08-09-2007, 02:21 AM
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Default Re: 44 SB vs BB levelling?

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Old 08-09-2007, 02:27 AM
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Default Re: 44 SB vs BB levelling?

I kind of like it because no one bluffs the river here.
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Old 08-09-2007, 02:54 AM
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Default Re: 44 SB vs BB levelling?

I think the problem with this line is that it is so strong it represenst a very narrow range of cards.

With trips on this drawy board I would always raise either flop or turn, most often flop. Once you have called two streets I would put you on one of these hands:

1) The rare monster, like 75, not afraid of the draws.
2) A medium strength hand playing potcontrol (88)
3) A passively played draw, not believeing UTG has a 7.

If UTG sees this the same way, he might call you pretty light hoping to see a busted draw, since monsters are rare.
Depends on villains nittiness and your image obviously.
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Old 08-09-2007, 02:58 AM
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Default Re: 44 SB vs BB levelling?

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I kind of like it because no one bluffs the river here.

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Nobody bluffs the river because nobody folds to a shove.

Well that's not completely true, but eh, not a big fan of this since you're repping a pretty tight range of 55/77/88. I don't think you fold out better hands often enough to make this profitable. I think if he folds you had the best hand 90% of the time. For the record I think folding &gt; calling &gt; shoving, with calling/shoving being pretty close.

Also, turn call is pretty bad IMO.
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Old 08-09-2007, 03:17 AM
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Default Re: 44 SB vs BB levelling?

Im confused, u have 44 you didnt hit ur set and are going all in to a preflop raise. Showing strength on all boards.
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Old 08-09-2007, 03:23 AM
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Default Re: 44 SB vs BB levelling?

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Hows my line?

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Old 08-09-2007, 05:31 AM
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Default Re: 44 SB vs BB levelling?

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Also, turn call is pretty bad IMO.


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I called the turn for the purpose of making a play on the river.

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Well that's not completely true, but eh, not a big fan of this since you're repping a pretty tight range of 55/77/88.


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I dont think it matters that much what I'm repping. This board is pretty hot for a triple barrel from him with air.
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Old 08-09-2007, 05:33 AM
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Nobody bluffs the river because nobody folds to a shove.


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But seriously what can he call with. I think he has air here most of the time, and will fold most K hands anyway after the river.
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Old 08-09-2007, 06:12 AM
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Default Re: 44 SB vs BB levelling?

Unless he is 3 barrelling you with air (busted draw) he has a hand here. Since he is getting decent odds and your hand could easily be a busted draw, I think most players call with a king here, maybe even less.

Your raise of his third barrel is either monster or air, so if he decides to call with less than a great hand it doesnt matter much if its a king or 99 in my opinion.
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