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Old 11-03-2006, 10:10 PM
Bubsy27 Bubsy27 is offline
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Default Give up three of a kind. Has villain always got a full house?

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $6</font>, UTG+1 folds, SB calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($15, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $30</font>, Hero calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB is all-in $140.75</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in $63</font>.
Uncalled bets: $77.75 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $201
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Old 11-03-2006, 10:24 PM
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Default Re: Give up three of a kind. Has villain always got a full house?

I def fold that river (might fold to turn CR too), u have kicker troubles, plus you lose to a house, I don't see how you can do better than a split here, and that is even pushing it

edited for, i'm changing my mind already, this is player dependent, so I'm going with your probably behind, but you could call depending on the player. Can't help u with no stats/previous hand info/your table image.
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Old 11-03-2006, 10:34 PM
AmazingErvin AmazingErvin is offline
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Default Re: Give up three of a kind. Has villain always got a full house?

Only thing I can see you beating on the turn is a flush draw...maybe JT but that's suicide. Against a typical player I'd fold here.
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Old 11-03-2006, 10:48 PM
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Default Re: Give up three of a kind. Has villain always got a full house?

wow fold to the turn c/r 95% of the time. you beat exactly KQ and i don't think he would play that like he did on all three streets. by the river i'd say you're smoked 100% here
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Old 11-04-2006, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: Give up three of a kind. Has villain always got a full house?

Fold the turn big time.
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Old 11-04-2006, 11:54 AM
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Default Re: Give up three of a kind. Has villain always got a full house?

He doesn't always have a FH, but he's always got you beat.
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Old 11-04-2006, 12:19 PM
n1nj4.br n1nj4.br is offline
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Default Re: Give up three of a kind. Has villain always got a full house?

i think u have to fold on turn ..
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Old 11-04-2006, 01:21 PM
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Default Re: Give up three of a kind. Has villain always got a full house?

i think this is a check on the turn, and then call the river or bet if he checks. Qx is going to call at most one more bet, so my line doesn't lose you anything against Qx, and you're more likely to get a bet out of him on the river than on the turn b/c you're showing weakness on the turn and b/c his call on the river will get to showdown.

he may have a flush draw, in which case you'd rather bet the turn, but there's some chance villain will bluff the river anyway, and you don't lose anything with the check (assuming villain would've called your turn bet).

the tough thing about the hand as played is that you're often chopping. villain can have a lot of different 7's from the sb, and only a7, k7, q7, and 97 beat you. so i actually don't hate the river call, but it probably should be a fold. but if you don't bloat the pot on the turn then you can play a medium sized pot where your hand will play a lot better.
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Old 11-04-2006, 02:42 PM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Default Re: Give up three of a kind. Has villain always got a full house?

Call flop. Bet turn if he checks, otherwise call turn, too.

Call the river if he bets, Bet it if he checks to you.

As played, zomg check the turn. He has a pretty narrow range for calling the flop raise and a lot of it has you smoked. I hate stacking off with trips no kicker unless you underrep your hand.
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Old 11-04-2006, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: Give up three of a kind. Has villain always got a full house?

As played fold turn. I'd probably raise bigger on the flop. Calling flop then calling turn and river are fine lines to since those makes him bet a queen all the way.
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