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Old 07-12-2007, 01:19 PM
sebastien sebastien is offline
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Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
6 players
i litle read on vilain :
bet middle paire flop call un rraise calldown eachstreet kiker 2 gagne plsu rien bottom qui double flush etc
c kto bb raise 9jt flop bet turn check river
3bet ato bet kqxs bet turn x check river s

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T
[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
4 folds, Hero raises, BB calls.

flop:9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

turn:J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls.
ahaahah i don t know how to play this board :'(

river:5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

hero [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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Old 07-12-2007, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: ATo sb I play like a crap!!

Ok, your read makes zero sense to me, but I like just check/calling down after he raises the flop.
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Old 07-12-2007, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: ATo sb I play like a crap!!

c/r turn. no reason to put him on a flush, he can easily have pair, 2pair, A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

as played b/f river. he will check behind anything that isn't a flush but he will probably call with some of those hands
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Old 07-12-2007, 01:38 PM
sebastien sebastien is offline
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Default Re: ATo sb I play like a crap!!

he s not a mistake to have the possibility to loose one bet??
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Old 07-12-2007, 02:07 PM
Apanage Apanage is offline
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Default Re: ATo sb I play like a crap!!

I´d Check call turn because we don´t want to fold out a pair from villain plus there is a small chance that we´re behind.
Check raising turn is not a bad play either since we are charging all singleclub flop raising hands.But my feeling is that he has a pair with no clubs.
Bet/fold river since he could pay off with some hands and it sure must look to him as you were waiting for that river card. Is he tricky it could be a bad move to bet/fold though.
But most villains are not tricky in this spot.And I also think being tricky here is a losing play for him in the long run.
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Old 07-12-2007, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: ATo sb I play like a crap!!

Euh we have the Tc right? I'm not that good at franglais but I don't think there is anything in there about his agressive/passiveness so with regards to river b/f's with the T high flush we should treat him as an unknown.

C/r turn and b/c river seems fine. There is so much value in a river bet that you have to bet, and I don't want to fold the third nuts to an unknown.
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Old 07-12-2007, 02:10 PM
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French people on message boards are so awesome.
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Old 07-12-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: ATo sb I play like a crap!!

turn is a bet imo, you don't want to chop this and he's going to check behind worse hands too much. if he just calls you bet all rivers.

on the river as played I still think you should bet for value. he surely has some showdownable hand and he's going to value bet you pretty close to perfectly if you check.
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Old 07-12-2007, 03:51 PM
Scary_Tiger Scary_Tiger is offline
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Turn is definitely a c/r versus most opponents.

River is a b/f versus most opponents.
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Old 07-12-2007, 04:12 PM
YanMTL YanMTL is offline
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Default Re: ATo sb I play like a crap!!

This guy is a calling station and he doesn't fold when you tell him his hand is no good. So punish him by C/R the turn and bet the river. your notes are clear, he doesn't bluff the river often and with 4 clubs on the board, he won't bet so you had to take the lead.

Tes notes devraient être toutes françaises ou anglaises, un mélange des deux est pas évident au premier coup d'oeil...sauf si tu es confortable avec ça.
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