PS 6,5 - 66 Bubble Push

MauMau · #1 07-08-2007, 08:12 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t4110)
UTG (t5980)
Button (t2160)
Hero (t1250)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises to t800, 1 fold, Hero raises to t1225, 1 fold, UTG calls t425.

Flop: (t2500) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t2500) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t2500) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t2500

Standard play?

holy32 · #2 07-08-2007, 08:48 PM

I fold this. You don't have any FE and you're deep enough to find a better (i.e. +EV) spot.

Try and post reads with your questions, even if it's just tight/loose/dumb w/e.

DeuceSeven · #3 07-08-2007, 09:11 PM

You have to fold, you have no fe.

ekim223 · #4 07-08-2007, 09:11 PM

I would fold this 80% of the time here. Like mentioned, you have no fold equity with your shove. Best case scenario is that you're flipping coins with the raiser. Wait and find a better spot to stick it in.

flopton · #5 07-09-2007, 01:26 AM

even if hes opening with 50% of hands here you have to fold everything but kings and aces. so whether the opponent is tight or loose you're folding the 66.

J-P · #6 07-09-2007, 01:29 AM

fold and push 88+ AQ+

flopton · #7 07-09-2007, 01:58 AM

can i ask you guys to run this hand in SNG wiz i just downloaded it recently and im interested in finding the correct ranges to put on people. i talked with JP about it and we think maybe its "one of the spots" where OP has to put aside ICM and take a slight -ev because its the best he will have.

we came up with the BB is calling 5% of hands or 99+, AQ+, AJs+

the cut off is opening 50% of hands and calling any of the OP re-push because its so small (22+, A2+, K2+, Q4+, Q2s+, J8+, J5s+, T9+, T7s+, 98s+)

the problem is when i put that into sngwiz it still says folding JJ is -0.37! is there something i'm missing or is it just one of those spots?

AMT · #8 07-09-2007, 02:50 AM

fold! in most cases, being in a coinflip on the bubble with no fold equity is a bad spot to be in.