$16 late game stop n' go

[vers]

Holla, how is this?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t2935)
Button (t5500)
SB (t2885)
Hero (t2180)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Button raises to t600</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, Hero calls t400

Flop: (t1300) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t1580 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>

[Sober]

I think the stopngo is unnecessary, because that's actually a good flop for you. Unless you have a specific read that he never cbets, go for a checkraise.

The only hands that will fold to this stopngo are the hands that would otherwise cbet and give you more value.

Not too bad a play overall though, as I'd be snap-calling your stopngo with AK on this flop.

[vers]

CR has no FE though. I'm not sure I like checking, him betting like 800, I cr for another 800 and he has to call w/ 2 overs (giving him correct odds to draw)... I think I'd rather just take it down on the flop w/ a lead out shove. I think almost any A hi will call my flop shove anyways.

[jkpoker]

i wouldnt suggest playing it any diff

sappose you could jsut shove pf but wouldnt recommend it

[Niggel]

I am a nit. If the button hasn't been aggressive I fold this PF.

[Pocketbear]

Reads? Readless this is a fold PF for me. It's a bit of FPS with more than 10bb on the bubble, I think.

[Sober]

I don't think FE is an issue on this flop. In fact, I'm fighting it.

If he has an overpair or the 6, he's not folding to a stopngo or a cr. If he has two overs, he may fold to the stopngo, and he might find a way to fold to the cr.

If he folds to the stopngo, we've won 1300. If he folds to the cr, we've won 1300 plus another bet, probably around 700.

The thing is, if he's got two overs, we WANT him to call or at least put in another bet, because we're way ahead. With only two cards to come, he's roughly 24% to win, plus we've got the four 4's and two 5's for redraw. He'll likely call the cr, since he'd have to call an additional 880 to win 3580 (assuming his cbet was only 700). He'd even be getting correct odds to call, getting over 4:1.

If he has an overpair, we're busting either way on a flop like this.

We very likely have the best hand, and if we don't, we're out anyway. Might as well play the hand in a way that extracts the most value.

[Little John]

i think i just fold this preflop. you are on the bubble and other two short stacks are fairly close to you.

[Q..]

Im either pushing or folding it preflop, but as played we Have to check/raise because this stop and go would only scare away highcards that would probably put us allin if we check, and we have 79% against them, hands that beat us aren't folding.

[darinvg]

Fold. Too deep to SnG and not really good enough to reshove unless you have a good read.