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Old 10-12-2007, 11:41 AM
scpi10 scpi10 is offline
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Is MP2 vil?
It looks like he loves his hand but that [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] might be a scare card. I say go for the c/r again. I think your 3 bet looks more like set than a fd. Although Button cc twice so he might have a flush too. You might be able to bet get mp2 to raise and have button 3bet if he has the flush.
I said c/r first but I think a lead is better here.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:23 PM
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I agree its a close call here with the lead out taking it in a slight edge. My reasoning is that mp will still repop you with a lead out allowing us to three bet. With the check raise to me that signifies alot more strength then leading out on the turn. Well us three betting would signify alot of strength but it would be too late at that point we already maximized our profit for that hand
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:40 PM
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Hero bets, aninec.

If Villan is paying any sort of attention the flush might scare him off betting his TP, but he'll at least call your bet on the theory that if you actually had the flush you'd try to c/r him. ldo.

Also, given the Hero-caller-Villan-caller arrangement of the players there's no way to avoid facing SOMEBODY with two cold.

Edit: zomg, wtf is up with everybody advocating betting flops with draws oop in family pots? DO NOT BET THIS FLOP.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:45 PM
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S is offline
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oh yeah i bet the flop btw. didnt even notice that the first time around.

we has a double gutshot!
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:45 PM
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S is offline
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also flop play: b/3bet > b/c > c/c > c/r > c/f > f
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:02 PM
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we has a double gutshot!

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o rly? A34TK? You mean we have to hit runner-runner gutshots to make a straight?
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:41 PM
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I'd bet the turn. Probably bet the flop too.
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Old 10-13-2007, 02:57 AM
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we has a double gutshot!

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o rly? A34TK? You mean we have to hit runner-runner gutshots to make a straight?

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lol...

1 Jack and 1 Queen is a double gutshot!

(yes im jk, but im srs about betting the flop every time here)
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Old 10-13-2007, 10:24 AM
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1 Jack and 1 Queen is a double gutshot!

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Welkome to In-n-Owt Burgur! You haz a double-double!

(1 deuce and 1 five.)

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(yes im jk, but im srs about betting the flop every time here)

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You've got 5 opponents. I don't think betting is a mistake, but I think you're more likely to achieve your goals by checking and seeing what happens. Kind of like river play, I think you're more likely to find a hand after you that will bet allowing you to raise, than a hand that will raise allowing you to 3bet.
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