How would you play this hand on the river? (NL50 6 max)

Vedocorban · #1 03-09-2007, 03:29 AM

Not far into the session. No read on the villain.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($70.90)
Hero ($80.30)
BB ($25.25)
UTG ($77.05)
MP ($45.85)
CO ($49.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, Button calls $0.50, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $1.5, BB calls $1.50, Button calls $1.50.

Turn: ($6) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $5, BB folds, Button calls $5.

River: ($16) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $10, Button raises to $63.9, Hero ......?

Final Pot: $143.80

Genz · #2 03-09-2007, 03:49 AM

I fold this preflop. Only when I have a feeling for the table and am pretty sure that I can play a draw oop without much resistance, I complete here. Or I need one or two more limpers. But it's not terrible or anything.

I probably snap call this river, but you could be at the idiot end of that straight. The pot wasn't raised preflop, so TT, JJ, QQ, AK are unlikely, unless Button is extremely tight preflop. Connectors like QJ, JT, KQ, KJ are likely though. You are behind those PPs and AK that are unlikely because the pot wasn't raised and you are behind JT and QJ. You beat AJ, AQ, QT (unlikely hand) and any random J. Button calls big bets on every street. This certainly looks like a slowplay here, so I probably need to revoke my estimation about his preflop play. I think you need to fold here.

Genz · #3 03-09-2007, 03:51 AM

adding: he could bluff with KQ here that he chased with. But without a read and deep stacks, I rather save my stack.

RolloRolf · #4 03-09-2007, 04:11 AM

looks like JQ to me.

Even with the strength of your hands i´d say you're behind.

Sigurd · #5 03-09-2007, 04:30 AM

Fold preflop 89o is junk, especially against unknowns.

Folding river.

whoisthedrizzle · #6 03-09-2007, 04:53 AM

I guess I would fold this preflop.

River is a tough spot, I hate folding this hand so much, but unless I've seen button get extremely out of line I just don't see him having anything we beat.

BoerfSt · #7 03-09-2007, 05:12 AM

I think you're are behind and have to fold. Many hand beat us.
Also fold pre flop.

rakes.a.beach · #8 03-09-2007, 05:26 AM

It seems like most people believe this is a fold preflop. My question is what do we complete here in SB after button limps? A5? AT? 78suited? QJ off? Where do we draw the line?

Galway · #9 03-09-2007, 05:37 AM

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It seems like most people believe this is a fold preflop. My question is what do we complete here in SB after button limps? A5? AT? 78suited? QJ off? Where do we draw the line?

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Fold pf is extremely tight IMO. 89o from SB in an unraised pot? I am amazed at the responses this is getting.

Regarding the river I doubt if I ever could but I think that a fold is correct. Sure would be tough to do though. I'd probably second guess myself into thinking he had slowplayed AJ with an additonal RDF of about 5%...tough spot.

Yenool · #10 03-09-2007, 05:41 AM

I prefer completing with 98, 76s.. etc, over rag aces and kings... even suited they are trap hands.

I think in this situation you must fold the river unless you have some sick read on this guy. You can't beat anything but a total bluff or a complete muppet bet on the river here.