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Old 11-25-2007, 07:47 PM
Todd Terry Todd Terry is offline
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Default Re: UB 200k - AK v CDBR 4bShove

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I'd fold. This is KK+, maybe AK.




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It is more like definitely AK, QQ, somewhat discounted KK, discounted AA..

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IDK, I just think we're too deep here for people to be playing kamikaze poker with QQ. The stack sizes are awkward, I don't think there's any significance to the size of the raise.
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: UB 200k - AK v CDBR 4bShove

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I'd fold. This is KK+, maybe AK.




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It is more like definitely AK, QQ, somewhat discounted KK, discounted AA..

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IDK, I just think we're too deep here for people to be playing kamikaze poker with QQ. The stack sizes are awkward, I don't think there's any significance to the size of the raise.

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yea but AK is soooo much more likely than KK and AA, especially AA.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: UB 200k - AK v CDBR 4bShove

I fold this. Is he really pushing 50BB in this situation w/AQ? I don't think so
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Old 11-26-2007, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: UB 200k - AK v CDBR 4bShove

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I fold this. Is he really pushing 50BB in this situation w/AQ? I don't think so

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No one ever said he's pushing AQ. He doesn't have to be!

2100+ 360 +60=2520 in pot. have to call 2100-360=1740

2520/1740=1.44828 solve (100-x)/x=1.44828 for x get x=40.8451= % equity needed to breakeven cEVwise.

the basically worst case scenario imo is KK+,AK,50%QQ

which AKs has 41.213% equity against, AKo has 38%

so like i said AKs is a must call. AKo is close

in reality i think you have to discount at least AA. people just don't make huge shoves like that with AA that often.

if you discount both AA and QQ by 50%, AKs has 43.86% and AKo has 40.93%
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:30 PM
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Default Re: UB 200k - AK v CDBR 4bShove

def closer than i thought, I should have done the math (im assuming urs is correct) but i realy dont think you should discount AA at all, if anything I would discount QQ
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