NL10: trips moderate kicker and trying to steal in position (2 hands)

[Jurrr]

No reads at all as it is early in the session either for villains or me. Is it better if I make two posts or condense into one if it's the same session?

So do I just call and let FDs/straights draw or do I pull the trigger?

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1.80
UTG+1: $4
MP1: $1.35
MP2: $2
CO: $24.35
Button: $4.94
SB: $12.05
Hero: $10.05

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 (poster) checks, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, Hero (poster) checks.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($0.45, 4 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 bets $0.3</font>, Button calls, Hero calls, MP1 folds.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1.35, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 bets $0.5</font>, Button calls, Hero...

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And the second one. Do you like me betting the flop? River decision is trivial, right?

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1.90
UTG+1: $1.85
MP1: $2.70
MP2: $5.04
CO: $12.45
Hero: $13.45
SB: $9.55
BB: $1.80

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $0.3</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($0.75, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $0.5</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1.75, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $0.8</font>, Hero...

[Esmerelda]

Hand 1: You definitely lead the turn for 3/4 pot, draws are about the only hands paying you off here along with pps. Get your value now.

Hand 2: Pf, I sometimes raise to 1 if I think villain will fold small pairs and call with some weaker broadways.

As played flop is fine (maybe bet a bit more but meh)

Turn, I probably bet more often than not here (depends on villain and my table image). If villain can fold Kx and I have a good rep then I bet about 1.25 and am done with putting in money.

[Jurrr]

Just to explain my (perhaps incorrect) logic.

Hand 1. Did not lead turn as then everybody knows I have an Ace and I expected MP2 to carry on the betting (which he did, this time).

Hand 2. I could have repopped preflop but figured I have position so why only get worse hands to fold and better to drive me out? Flop 3/4 pot is my standard dryish flop bet (though here you could argue there are SDs but I don't expect villain to have one). Any bet on turn basically puts villain AI and villain may feel pot committed with a pocket pair already, hence no bet on turn. I don't feel like I have FE against the shortstack.

[Esmerelda]

Sorry I am sleepy. Hand 1, I check also in this brady bunch pot.

[Obliky]

Hand no 1: I would lead the flop to try and get a feel on where i am in the hand. Its resonably likely you have the best hand and i would like to find out now if anyone likes their hand enough to re-raise.

Nice turn check.

Hand No 2: Personally i would call the river... i think there is a resonable chance he has a busted draw and is trying to take the pot down after your turn check.

[Jurrr]

Hand 2 he was PFR UTG+2 FR. The only likely busted draw I beat is Ah Jh and that is like one hand.

[Jurrr]

Hand 1: I have been checking flop on these a lot. I don't want a big pot here so I let a card peel off here; if it completes a draw and action heats up, well I've lost a small pot but won't invest more with my marginal hand. If it is checked around and the turn blanks then I bet out smallish and get called with medium pocket pairs and medium/bottom pairs a lot who assume since I didn't bet flop they may be good and I may be on a steal.

Not sure it is the best way to play this though but that's my regular line in family limped pots OOP. Otherwise they all float me and I end up stacking off (to price out draws) with MPTK in a pot where 4 folks have seen the flop and that's just spewing in my book.

In position after it's checked around; sure I bet.

[Obliky]

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Hand 2 he was PFR UTG+2 FR. The only likely busted draw I beat is Ah Jh and that is like one hand.

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lol.. sorry man, im way too tired! Totally missed that he raised pf.