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Old 11-06-2007, 08:41 PM
creamfillin creamfillin is offline
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Default 25NL should i bother calling this river?

Villain is 50ish/25 after a small sample. Seems like i'm never good here.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($26.10)
BB ($46.05)
UTG ($24.90)
Button ($36.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $3</font>, Hero calls $1.50.

Turn: ($8) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4.

River: ($16) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $6</font>, Hero calls $6.

Final Pot: $28
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Old 11-06-2007, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: 25NL should i bother calling this river?

I'm trying to understand your plan.

Bet flop, get min-raised. Just call to represent weakness and/or flush draw?

Turn check, call bet. Just call because he might have the flush now?

River check, call bet. I am so lost in this hand, villain's small bet may be a value bet with the flush?

It's impossible to tell on the river where you stand. You can only call.
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Old 11-06-2007, 08:56 PM
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Default Re: 25NL should i bother calling this river?

no, you should not call river. i mean, these bets look like value bets from a best hand from this type of player (stat dependent)

i really dislike the call of his flop minraise. can you explain your thinking there? i think you have to bump it up significantly here to charge for a draw, or to extract money with what is probably the best hand at that time
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Old 11-06-2007, 09:01 PM
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Default Re: 25NL should i bother calling this river?

I don't usually 3-bet people with one pair on the flop 100bbs deep.. leak?
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Old 11-06-2007, 09:11 PM
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Default Re: 25NL should i bother calling this river?

i mean, i cant really say if its a leak per se; i think its really weak, which imo is not a good recipe for nl play. personally i would make it like 11 or 12 and see what he does. if he calls we can assume hes drawing; if he pushes, meh, I would call it but thats me, and ive been known to lose a buy-in or 2 (i have trouble accepting that others flop sets and such)
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Old 11-06-2007, 09:23 PM
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Default Re: 25NL should i bother calling this river?

c/r the turn...playing weak like this is not good. gain value from your good hands- freezing up when against aggression is not good.
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Old 11-06-2007, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: 25NL should i bother calling this river?

you think c/r turn is good? i might be wrong, but if you c/r turn youre going to be getting ai, and you may be getting it all in behind. i like raising the flop minraise much better than c/r the turn
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:44 AM
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Default Re: 25NL should i bother calling this river?

say what?

this is a



fist pump

you might think about raising somewhere, but i don't mind the calldown.
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:50 AM
kroeliewoelie kroeliewoelie is offline
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Default Re: 25NL should i bother calling this river?

Against 50/25 guys (or is that just a 4 hand sample?) you will see junk so often on the flop, that I am insta-3-betting the flop. Sometimes I will lose to a set, but most of the time you stack Kx.
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