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Old 10-30-2007, 03:08 AM
winzton winzton is offline
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Default 10 NL dry flop villain donk shoves

Full Tilt Poker, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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UTG: $6.60
MP: $6.45
Hero (CO): $20.20
BTN: $9.65
SB: $8.30
BB: $9

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $0.35</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.60</font>, 3 folds, MP calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.35) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $4.85 and is All-In</font>, Hero ?

No reads. New to the table. Thoughts? call or fold?
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:24 AM
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Default Re: 10 NL dry flop villain donk shoves

Fold. K-rag is that what you see the most time.
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:28 AM
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Default Re: 10 NL dry flop villain donk shoves

I like a fold here too, but you're not going to be seeing K-rag a lot, as one of the earlier posters suggests.
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:38 AM
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Default Re: 10 NL dry flop villain donk shoves

obviously read dependent, but readless i fold
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Old 10-30-2007, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: 10 NL dry flop villain donk shoves

thanks all, yeah i folded
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:07 PM
ev_slave ev_slave is offline
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Default Re: 10 NL dry flop villain donk shoves

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I like a fold here too, but you're not going to be seeing K-rag a lot, as one of the earlier posters suggests.

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Why not? Any reason? Does he have AK more often than K6? I'm just curious because you say "he's wrong" and don't explain what's "right" or even why he's wrong.

Back to the OP, this is a clear fold. I 3-bet to about 1.2 PF because I think it gets the same result as raising to 1.6. But the 3-bet is good because it allows us a good chance to take down a pot on the flop with a c-bet, which is an important strategy for hands that are unlikely to improve. Since he's donkbet into you, this option is lost, and you ought to just fold.
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: 10 NL dry flop villain donk shoves

KT or K9 could be considered K-rag here. Those are pretty terrible hands to open with, but people still do it. The action up until here shows that villan probably isn't that strong of a player. And if villan *is* open raising with hands like that why wouldn't we believe that he immediately stacks in when he hits?

I would fold here.
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