Live 1/2nl QQ in BB

kassdog · #1 08-22-2007, 01:22 PM

Its a $100 max buy-in game. I have roughly $100 behind villan has me covered. About 7 limp in to me and I make it $20 to go. There are two folds villian makes it $40 all day. folds around to me. Now if I call it only leaves me with about $60 or so. He seems like every other 1/2nl live player. Not that great but has a sense of the game

Should I have just checked PF, called his $20 raise, or just shoved.

Mingdu · #2 08-22-2007, 01:26 PM

shove ... easiest decision of the day

GrandMelon · #3 08-22-2007, 01:26 PM

place all of your circular betting units into the area in front of you

DrClaw · #4 08-22-2007, 03:06 PM

Without any reads I think that you are forced to play the hand as a shove because of your stack size, the strength of your hand, and the fact that most players at live 1-2NL overvalue their hands.
(However, most players at this level do not 3-bet lightly and there is no reason why, in a live game like this, you need to go broke with QQ if you have reads. I think these games are full of weak-passive uncreative players, and some of them will never 3-bet JJ or AK preflop unless they're short and their 3-bet is a shove. Just keep an eye out for these guys.)

CalledDownLight · #5 08-22-2007, 03:07 PM

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place all of your circular betting units into the area in front of you

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and maybe a hundo extra of cash if you can get away with it

Mingdu · #6 08-22-2007, 03:08 PM

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and maybe a hundo extra of cash if you can get away with it

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+pink slip

AlexB182 · #7 08-22-2007, 03:10 PM

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LOL

kassdog · #8 08-22-2007, 04:24 PM

So here is what my thought was. I figure why would he limp in +2 utg with KK or AA. Not at these limits with two limpers ahead. I put him on JJ because he wasn't terrible just not a great player. So when it came to my turn i looked like i was just trying to buy it by looking to see how many people were in. I already knew just made it more obvious incase anyone was observant hoping for a call. So I shove and he insta calls. Turns over KK and get no help. I still today don't know why anyone would limp in with two limpers ahead of time. Just couldn't believe it. Guess I should have guessed at these limits.

Landlord79 · #9 08-22-2007, 04:32 PM

The trick with doing this play w/ KK is to be able to get away from it on a multiway flop. As played, he got a heads up pot against a hand that he had crushed. At live $1/2 you are often faced w/ a mwp when you are the first in, so limp-reraises go up in value IMO.

kassdog · #10 08-22-2007, 06:46 PM

But when your 3rd to act shouldn't you realize that your giveig oppurtunity for a lot of people to join the pot. I mean in this limit with KK AA QQ don't you want less people because of hands like J7s and 89o that people have no problem limping in big pots to get out.