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Old 07-11-2007, 03:17 PM
Dawg24 Dawg24 is offline
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Default WSOP tough spot?

all the players at my table were quite bad...

UTG+1 is new to table but has played quite a few hands in the first three or four orbits...seems weak.

Hero 31k
UTG+1 27k

blinds at 200-400 (20 minutes till break)

hero has A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

UTG+1 raises to 1200 and all others fold to me in BB and I call quickly.

FLOP A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I check knowing he will bet and villan bets 3000

I insta-raise to 9000 and he shoves....

Easy call? Easy fold? neither?

results to come...but I called....
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Old 07-11-2007, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: WSOP tough spot?

incredibly easy call..
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Old 07-11-2007, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: WSOP tough spot?

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incredibly easy call..

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Yup.

Same hand at worst I'm guessing, but you are free rollin'!?
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Old 07-11-2007, 04:14 PM
Cornell Fiji Cornell Fiji is offline
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Default Re: WSOP tough spot?

TPTKTD = nuts.

Sorry if he had a set but there are a million hands that he could have that you dominate (QhJh, 8h9h, AQ, AK) and a few that you are barely behind (AT, A9). You almost have pot odds to call against his set if that was the only thing in his range... how is this even a question?
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:06 PM
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Default Re: WSOP tough spot?

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TPTKTD = nuts.

Sorry if he had a set but there are a million hands that he could have that you dominate (QhJh, 8h9h, AQ, AK) and a few that you are barely behind (AT, A9). You almost have pot odds to call against his set if that was the only thing in his range... how is this even a question?

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really for the good story of I call and see A Q no hearts...so two outs...and they both come Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

down to four thousand at a table with NO good players....what could have been...gl to all still in...
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:09 PM
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Take this crap to BBV b/c it definitely doesn't deserve any discussion in HSMTT.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:23 PM
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Take this crap to rec.gambling.poker b/c it definitely doesn't deserve any discussion on twoplustwo.

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OK... that might be overboard, I guess you could put it in BBV too
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: WSOP tough spot?

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Take this crap to rec.gambling.poker b/c it definitely doesn't deserve any discussion on twoplustwo.

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OK... that might be overboard, I guess you could put it in BBV too

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LOL I can't even remember the last time I went over to RGP to look around. I'm heading there now just to see if it's really still around.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:51 PM
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Default Re: WSOP tough spot?

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Take this crap to rec.gambling.poker b/c it definitely doesn't deserve any discussion on twoplustwo.

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OK... that might be overboard, I guess you could put it in BBV too

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LOL I can't even remember the last time I went over to RGP to look around. I'm heading there now just to see if it's really still around.

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I haven't been there in 5 years either but your post made me want to check it out.

The very first strategy thread I found titled 'Bahhh - Was there a better way to play this hand' it is a simple hand history:

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Full Tilt Poker Game #2919165631: $5 + $0.50 Tournament (22201494),
Table 35 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:44:14 ET - 2007/07/11
Seat 1: FIRSTLOSERAA (4,240)
Seat 2: RomanOdyssey (1,785)
Seat 3: LowBudgetEnt (3,230)
Seat 5: DubV511 (3,375)
Seat 6: hottwhyrd (6,390)
Seat 7: Two FAAces (3,785)
Seat 8: joeuhc (2,965)
Seat 9: great_one49 (4,270)
great_one49 posts the small blind of 40
FIRSTLOSERAA posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to joeuhc [Ad Ac]
RomanOdyssey folds
LowBudgetEnt folds
DubV511 calls 80
hottwhyrd calls 80
Two FAAces folds
joeuhc raises to 600
great_one49 folds
FIRSTLOSERAA has 15 seconds left to act
zazaray sits down
zazaray adds 1,740
FIRSTLOSERAA is sitting out
FIRSTLOSERAA has timed out
FIRSTLOSERAA folds
DubV511 folds
hottwhyrd calls 520
*** FLOP *** [6d 5h 3d]
hottwhyrd checks
joeuhc bets 2,365, and is all in
hottwhyrd calls 2,365
joeuhc shows [Ad Ac]
hottwhyrd shows [Kd 7d]
*** TURN *** [6d 5h 3d] [9d]
*** RIVER *** [6d 5h 3d 9d] [6s]
joeuhc shows two pair, Aces and Sixes
hottwhyrd shows a flush, King high
hottwhyrd wins the pot (6,130) with a flush, King high
joeuhc stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6,130 | Rake 0
Board: [6d 5h 3d 9d 6s]
Seat 1: FIRSTLOSERAA (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: RomanOdyssey didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: LowBudgetEnt didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: DubV511 folded before the Flop
Seat 6: hottwhyrd showed [Kd 7d] and won (6,130) with a flush, King
high
Seat 7: Two FAAces didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: joeuhc (button) showed [Ad Ac] and lost with two pair, Aces
and Sixes
Seat 9: great_one49 (small blind) folded before the Flop

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The OP decided that he should have bet more preflop stating:

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Any lower of a pre flop raise and I might have been up against 3 or 4
others lowering my chances from 84% to maybe a coin flip.

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He finally got frustrated by the lack of responses stating:

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Hey all I was looking for was some advice, like not go all-in when the
2 diamonds fell on the flop or something like that. My odds dropped
from 84% to 57% after the flop. I was just curious how "experts" here
would have played it and their thought processes around it. I guess I
expected too much to have an intelligent conversation.

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Dawg. RGP is EXACTLY where this thread belongs.
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Old 07-11-2007, 11:20 PM
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Default Re: WSOP tough spot?

CF,

Bwhahahaahah, that is [censored] funny.
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