Big blind all in with less than bb - what is needed to call?

[Crysan]

The topic should be quite self-explanatory.
Atleast at iPoker network you always have to put in the full bb to limp in, but it seems that some other networks have different rules; Just the amount of the bb all-in is needed.

So, what's the official/correct rule?
Thanks.

[VLV]

I don't get what you're asking. Can you go all in with less than the big blind?

First part of your question, yes, you always have to put in the full BB to limp in yes.

Second part, ???Just the amount of the bb all-in is needed.???

[Lego05]

If the person in the BB can't cover the BB then he's all-in for w/e he has. If someone wants to limp in they have to put in the actual BB amount not what the person in the BB has. However, if only one person plays then the extra money the put in is returned to them and they are all-in for the amount that the person in the BB had.

[SuperUberBob]

You mean if a stack is forced all-in from the BB, what is needed to call, right?

It depends on stack sizes. If you have a deep stack, call with any two cards. If you have a short stack, either shove all-in over the top or fold.

One move I like to do is if you're in this situation and you have multiple limpers (more than 3) in front of you, I like jamming with any two cards if you have a large enough stack to induce fold equity. Your opponents are limping with any two and will have a hard time calling your shove.

What happens is that by jamming all-in like that, you receive (Big blind - BB stack) * # of limpers in front automatically since that would be a side pot. Then you're heads up for the main pot.

[mce86]

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The topic should be quite self-explanatory.
Atleast at iPoker network you always have to put in the full bb to limp in, but it seems that some other networks have different rules; Just the amount of the bb all-in is needed.

So, what's the official/correct rule?
Thanks.

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You are all in for the amount you have! Once in a tournamrnt, I was all in for the ante and couldnt even post the blinds! (100-200 with a 25 ante)
I built back to 1700 in chips!! That was fun, and the dealer got a great tip!

[Crysan]

Ok, maybe it wasn't so self-explanatory after all, sorry [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

I think Lego05 got what I meant tho;

Let's say blinds are 5/10. A player in bb has a stack of 7 chips, so he's forced all-in. I'm on the button with a big stack and it's folded to me. Do I have to put in 7 chips, or 10 chips in the pot to constitute a call?

[Crysan]

Is the reply in this article correct?
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[klezmaniac]

You're in a tourney, and the blinds are T500/1000. BB has only T750 left. He posts his T750 and is all-in. You are UTG. You must post the full BB of T1000. If there are multiple callers, then a side pot will be created with T250 from each of the callers which they are now playing for, but which the BB cannot win. If you are the only caller, then you will get T250 back, and will playing heads up against the BB for T2000 (T750 from you and the BB + T500 from the SB).

Does this help?

(Of course, I could be wrong)

--klez

[jcl]

u gotta put in 10 unless folded to u and ur the sb in which case u put 2 more

[Gen Sterling]

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Ok, maybe it wasn't so self-explanatory after all, sorry [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

I think Lego05 got what I meant tho;

Let's say blinds are 5/10. A player in bb has a stack of 7 chips, so he's forced all-in. I'm on the button with a big stack and it's folded to me. Do I have to put in 7 chips, or 10 chips in the pot to constitute a call?

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7 chips.