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Old 10-01-2007, 07:12 PM
higHstaKesOwneR higHstaKesOwneR is offline
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Default AKo 4 way pot ai vs. squeezing tag

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $303.40
UTG+1: $179.40
CO: $210.10
Button: $227.60
SB: $118
Hero: $200

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $6</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $26</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $200</font>

UTG and Mp where both loose fishes and CO was a 19/10 tag over 100 hands.
I think he will isolate here realtivly loose agaisnt 2 really weak players even if his pf is kinda tight so i moved ai. A call oop after this action realy sucks and every rr commits me btw there are already 39$ deadmoney in the pot so i pushed...
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:17 PM
RikkiDee RikkiDee is offline
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Default Re: AKo 4 way pot ai vs. squeezing tag

I think I'd prefer a read that he squeezes semi-light before I'd do this. Otherwise pretty standard. Sucks that you ran into aces.
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: AKo 4 way pot ai vs. squeezing tag

I dont like this play vs 19/10 your hand is face up ..i think hell look you up with JJ+ even TT ...do you play KK+ same way?

But since weŽre oop iŽll 4b or fold.
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: AKo 4 way pot ai vs. squeezing tag

If you play QQ+ this way not only is this a good play, you need to do this with AK.
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:45 PM
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Default Re: AKo 4 way pot ai vs. squeezing tag

I don't know if I agree that it puts your hand face up. I could see QQ+ or KK+ doing this, with maybe the only difference being a regular 4bet instead of shoving. So if you're going to go with the hand I would make a standard 4bet as opposed to simply pushing.
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:52 PM
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Default Re: AKo 4 way pot ai vs. squeezing tag

If I'm going to 4bet with AK and will have less than a PSB on the flop I prefer to just get it AI pre.
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: AKo 4 way pot ai vs. squeezing tag

op can u explain why a call sucks?

i think that is my line preflop typically
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:58 PM
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Default Re: AKo 4 way pot ai vs. squeezing tag

Because AK is horrible OOP, and often if you are ahead on the flop it will have scared any hands that beat you off already.
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Old 10-01-2007, 08:01 PM
higHstaKesOwneR higHstaKesOwneR is offline
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Default Re: AKo 4 way pot ai vs. squeezing tag

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I think I'd prefer a read that he squeezes semi-light before I'd do this. Otherwise pretty standard. Sucks that you ran into aces.

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no i am sorry but i won the pot pf [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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So if you're going to go with the hand I would make a standard 4bet as opposed to simply pushing.

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so ypu would make it about 75-90$ right?
but let's say co calls and the flop comes T93r
we have to c/f a monsterpot

i can't see another line than c/f this flop and if we hit our K/A we might get a fold from somethink like QQ's

ok most of the time co will fold or push but i also had alot of situations where i was just called... and i don't really know what to do then if AK doesn't hit


btw yeah i play atleast QQ the same why and KK/AA also sometimes but not every time even if i think that pushing KK/AA here might be best becasue this move is really often AK

but how i said there is 40$ deadmoney in the middle and vs. QQ+ AKo/Aks we are "only a 38-39% underdog and it is possible that the fish utg might call w/ a hand like AQ which we absolutly crush [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-01-2007, 08:03 PM
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Default Re: AKo 4 way pot ai vs. squeezing tag

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op can u explain why a call sucks?

i think that is my line preflop typically

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because a call really looks very strong in a situation like this!
but it don't only look strong it will also often suck the 2 fsiches into the pot and w/ AKo i don't really want 4-way action oop
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