**** OFFICIAL Champions League 2007-08 Thread!*****

[Aces McGee]

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Liverpool would advance with a tie if Porto ties. correct?

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No, because Marseille would have the head to head tiebreaker over Liverpool.

-McGee

[PokerFink]

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If Liverpool only get a draw against Marseille and are even on points then Marseille go through because they have more points in matches played between those two teams since they won at Anfield.

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Oh. [censored].

[JaredL]

If Porto get at least a point and Liverpool and Marseille draw then Marseille go through because they have 4 points against Liverpool.

If Porto lose and Marseille and Liverpool draw then it's a 3-way tie for second between those three. Ignoring Besiktas, the table is:
Team W D L Pts
Liverpool 1-2-1 5
Porto 1-2-1 5
Marseille 1-2-1 5

So it goes to goal difference between those teams.
Liverpool have 5 goals for and 3 against
Porto have 5 for and 7 against
Marseille have 3 for and 2 against

So Liverpool would advance.

[PokerFink]

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I'm definitely a soccer noob, so my knowledge is limited. But ever since I heard him call the 2002 World Cup, Tommy Smyth has done the best announcing I've heard from anyone in any sport.

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Do you mean the play-by-play or the color guy? I think Derrick Rae (sp?) is great as a play-by-play guy, I'm so-so on Smyth. I used to like him more, but his schtick gets old.

[PokerFink]

Jared,

Do you know why do they do it that way instead of just overall GD?

[JaredL]

fink,

I'm not sure but I think it's so that it doesn't come down to who gets the most goals against the worst team. This group is actually pretty even, which makes Liverpool's huge win over Besiktas all the more crazy, but the group stage often has one team that is clearly the worst. It would be bad if a team advanced because they beat that team 12-0 instead of 8-0.

Of course it could eventually come to that, but it should be lower IMO.

[ClunkerDuds]

So I was wrong on both Pool and Bremen but its fine by me because that last match day for Liverpool's group is going to be a riot.

[Aces McGee]

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So I was wrong on both Pool and Bremen but its fine by me because that last match day for Liverpool's group is going to be a riot.

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The best part is that everyone controls their own destiny. It's not like all four teams are just "mathematically" alive to advance. Win and in for every one of them. It's great.

-McGee

[sharkstevie]

Woah 11th December & 16th December will be HUGE for Liverpool.

11th away to Marseille, must win game
16th home to Man Utd in the Premier League!!!! Arsenal and Chelsea too what a day that will be

[fanmail]

I'm pretty sure I mean Smyth. The Rae guy is solid too. I don't watch every international match or whatever, so I'm always excited to hear him. I can see how you could get sick of his 'schtick' or whatever, just like any announcer.