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#1
11-11-2007, 12:50 PM
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soap c/r
CP 30/60
background: utg is 2p2er soap and sb is drunken business man who is a complete goon and does not understand the game utg raises hero 3-bets 99 folds to sb who 4-bets utg calls hero caps 3 of us to the flop... KJ9r... sb bets, utg 2, hero 3, sb call, utg 4, hero 5 turn 2 (no flush draws out) check to hero who fires, sb calls, utg c/r, hero...? interested in the 3-bet and cap preflop as well as turn spot... all comments appreciated 
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#2
11-11-2007, 12:59 PM
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Re: soap c/r
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...sb is drunken business man who is a complete goon and does not understand the game... [/ QUOTE ] that's all i need to know. i give him a lift to 3 town. i don't ever slow down here against these types. ever.
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#3
11-11-2007, 01:52 PM
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Re: soap c/r
uuu, there is another player in this hand. I mean, i guess there are 4 hands soap can have. Ak, AA, KK, or JJ. You 5 bet the flop and he still c/r both of you, that strongly discounts AK. I am not good enough to fold this, but I sure as heck don't 3-bet.
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#5
11-11-2007, 03:53 PM
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Re: soap c/r
a few qualifiers, i am quite laggy compared to most live players
also, i think soap caps JJ and KK every time in this spot... i think QTs, KJs and a very discounted JJ make up his range... my rationale behind 3-betting the turn was that the sb almost always has 4 outs to his gut shot and in this large of a pot i want to do everything i can to protect my hand (if i am ahead)... i hope that helps give the conversation some direction
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#6
11-11-2007, 06:28 PM
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Re: soap c/r
he has JJ, dont three bet
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#7
11-11-2007, 06:46 PM
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Re: soap c/r
your play preflop is very meh too
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#8
11-11-2007, 07:51 PM
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Re: soap c/r
I don't like the flop 5-bet, I probably would have called the 4 and then raised most turns.
You're not sure if you're ahead or behind on the flop, but raising the turn gives you the best shot at protecting your hand against SB and to represent something that only the near-nuts is going to 3-town.
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#9
11-11-2007, 08:20 PM
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Re: soap c/r
turn action is wrong:
i CR'd the flop, shipit 3-bet, sb called, i 4 bet, shipit caps. imo, capping pf is terrible. sb is is retarded, but even retards get 99+ every now and then. you're at best 50/50 vs my range.
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#10
11-11-2007, 08:29 PM
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Re: soap c/r
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turn action is wrong: i CR'd the flop, shipit 3-bet, sb called, i 4 bet, shipit caps. imo, capping pf is terrible. sb is is retarded, but even retards get 99+ every now and then. you're at best 50/50 vs my range. [/ QUOTE ] I was thinking the same. Unless this guy is super spazzy I am hating 99 in this spot. I was thinking that you wouldnt even cap JJ here.
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