Getting Max value on flopped set, FT 2/4?

[Gurravasa]

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Thanks oink for berrating me. Obviously I'm trying to learn that's why I posted the hand. Obviously I know I butchered it, atleast know I misplayed it or I wouldn't have posted it. All the BS you added in your post turned a post with good advice into a post showing the nicer side of your personality. This isn't BBV, it's a strategy forum, I'm here to learn.

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Hey if you don't like the way Oink posts you can always add him to you're ignore list. He's an [censored], but he's giving out some very good advice so what do you prefer, having an [censored] help you or to get no help. As Wolfram said there's a reason a lot of posters post somewhat harshly and it's not that they don't like you, it's that they don't like your play or your reasoning for making said play. Of course the [censored] could have posted something like: "Well imho you should have raised somewhere in this hand, I'm pretty sure that would be best since you have the nuts" but I feel confident that you'll remember the [censored]'s advice better the way he wrote it.
<font color="white">And [censored] FC Copenhagen BTW!!!!</font>

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I agree that Oink gives good advice and I appreciate that he shares his analytic thinking. But I don't agree with Mvoss that harrasing is good pedagogics.

But since nobody gets payed here you can't always expect posters to use good pedagogics, but off course good manners is preferable. Oink gives good advice and usually explains his thinking well, but he sometimes shows some Gehrig-manners. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[Wolfram]

"pedagogics", I had to look that one up.

[BigBadBabar]

gosh this is terrible, bet and raise somewhere

ps. we have a set

[Scorcho]

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Flop: (13 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP calls, Hero calls, SB calls.


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"Oh hi there MP and SB. I have top set. Oh, would you like to draw (correctly) to your gutshot with 87, A2, or A3? Sure no problem! I'll just call and then you guys can just call and draw behind me for cheap. Yeah, I know you'd fold if I made it two bets for you but I'm feeling fancy today, so let's give it a whirl."

[TheHip41]

you can't call a flop 3bet and raise/cap the turn if you don't raise the flop.

cap PF, raise/call flop, raise cap turn, bet river $$$$$$$$$$$

[Guy McSucker]

I read through the entire thread and was surprised to see that nobody mentioned that you should BETRAISERAISERAISEBETBETBETRAISERAISERAISERAISERAI SE.

[Gurravasa]

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I read through the entire thread and was surprised to see that nobody mentioned that you should BETRAISERAISERAISEBETBETBETRAISERAISERAISERAISERAI SE.

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Read again...

[lippy]

Just brutalize people for peeling. Please.