KK 2/4c at PS

[jeanbaptiste36]

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.02/$0.04
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1.02
UTG+1: $0.51
hero: $0.96
MP2: $1.18
MP3: $0.71
CO: $0.64
Button: $0.49
SB: $0.78
BB: $0.80

Pre-flop: (9 players) hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (14.5SB, 7 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, hero checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls, BB calls, UTG calls, hero calls, MP2 folds.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (10.25BB, 6 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 bets</font>, CO calls, Button folds, BB calls, UTG calls, hero calls.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (15.25BB, 5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, hero checks, MP3 checks, CO checks.

Results:
Final pot: 15.25BB

Another stupid 2/4c hand and I would like some comments on my play before I leave for the greener pastures of the 5/10c.
I was trying for a protectioncheckraise on flop but that plan blew up solidly. It was 10 bets again on the turn but I should have bet out and hoped the guy on the left raised perhaps. The river okey with the gutshot out there.

[davelin]

Your flop check is frickin' terrible! Who are you check-raising? Yourself?

[fretelöo]

You HAVE to do something on the flop. Any 9 already has a OESD. Very coordinated board where many guys will find something to continue on.
The only question is whether you should bet or c/r. The thing with a c/r here is, that when you can c/r, only MP2 will have 2 to call. Everyone else will have already called one bet and most likely will call the second. Therefore, a c/r here would seem more like a value-c/r than a protection-c/r.
Adding the fear that it might get checked through, I would probably go ahead and bet the flop and be relatively happy if MP3 raises and a few fold.
Turn: Everyone is getting correct odds, that's true, but some 30+% of the time they'll miss their draw and you'll be good. So bet again.
River: Yes. I would check too.
River

[threads13]

You can't really set up a check-raise without knowing where a bet is likely to come from. Maybe if you knew the Button would bet if checked to the check-raise might be alright. As is, you have no reads and you were the PF aggressor so I think you just need to bet out on the flop for value. I know you want to find a way to drive some players out but there isn't really a way to pull that off here.

[BigBadBabar]

bet the flop and cap it if possible, and lead out on turn or raise a turn bet

[jeanbaptiste36]

Got it. Bet flop with overpair. I have truly forgotten everything in the last 3 months [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
There is some section in HEPFAP on loose games that I must be misapplying. They say check big pots on the button with big pp.

[camerondiggs]

[ QUOTE ]
Got it. Bet flop with overpair. I have truly forgotten everything in the last 3 months [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
There is some section in HEPFAP on loose games that I must be misapplying. They say check big pots on the button with big pp.

[/ QUOTE ]

but you werent on the button

[BigBadBabar]

also HEFPAP won't even apply until you're at $1/2 or 2/4 or higher even.

[jeanbaptiste36]

Ok, I will put off reading the yellow book until I get back up there again. Back to mistreating my copy of SSH.