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10-17-2007, 12:59 AM
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400nl, spider sense says bluff, what to do
villians is a reg. 20/16/4, he is very capable of making moves, and in this hand my spider sense is going nuts.
a little abit about this hand. HE insta insta called my preflop raise. then on the flop he insta raised me. I donno, seemed so fishy to me. Does anyone CRAI the turn when they feel something is up? or is this a fold? I know very well that my read could be wrong and him having like 78 99 88 or some [censored] Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players LegoPoker Hand History Converter CO: $400 BTN: $117 SB: $783.30 BB: $400 Hero (UTG): $450.70 Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG) <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, CO calls $14, 3 folds Flop: ($34) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $25</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $86</font>, Hero calls $61 Turn: ($206) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $144</font>, Hero folds Results: $206 Pot CO mucked and WON $347.50 (+$247.50 NET) Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players LegoPoker Hand History Converter CO: $400 BTN: $117 SB: $783.30 BB: $400 Hero (UTG): $450.70 Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG) <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, CO calls $14, 3 folds Flop: ($34) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $25</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $86</font>, Hero calls $61 Turn: ($206) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $144</font>, Hero folds Results: $206 Pot CO mucked and WON $347.50 (+$247.50 NET) 
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#2
10-17-2007, 01:10 AM
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Re: 400nl, spider sense says bluff, what to do
completely read based here imo
i dont like crai on the turn bc he calls all his better hands 100% of the time and he goes with all his semi bluffs anyways i think this is a fold, bc if you call this turn you're bound to face a shove on the river and theres a bunch of cards you dont want to see...you'd pretty much squarely have to put him on 55-77 turning there hand into a bluff and go with it to make this call
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#4
10-17-2007, 01:41 AM
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Re: 400nl, spider sense says bluff, what to do
I don't really like calling that flop raise on that board. You will face a turn bet a lot, you are OOP for rest of hand and there are a lot of bad turns. You're not losing much value from folding that flop.
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#5
10-17-2007, 02:07 AM
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Re: 400nl, spider sense says bluff, what to do
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Fold pre. [/ QUOTE ] why?
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#6
10-17-2007, 02:19 AM
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Re: 400nl, spider sense says bluff, what to do
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Fold pre. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not a nit. its not like i raise with this hand everytime. my question was really what u would do with a marginal hand but u think u'r opponent is bluffing his pants off. Most ppl tend to just play their cards.
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#7
10-17-2007, 03:16 AM
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Re: 400nl, spider sense says bluff, what to do
Turn is a very bad card for you. The J hits just about any draw he would be on other than 76.
I would probably have just released to his flop raise. You're going to face a second barrel way too often. Folding Q9s preflop UTG doesn't make you a nit by the way. It's not horrible, it's just very very marginal -- this hand is a prime example of why.
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